Le vendredi, 6 septembre 2019, 11.32:06 h CEST Bill Allombert a écrit : > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 09:17:59AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > Le mercredi, 4 septembre 2019, 23.53:06 h CEST Bill Allombert a écrit : > > > On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 11:04:57PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > > * Most decisions are not just technical decisions, in many/most > > > > > cases > > > > > > > > > > the decisions have answers that are all correct, but it just > > > > > depends > > > > > on the weight of specific trade-offs. How those are weighted > > > > > depends > > > > > heavily on each individual. This also seems rather unfair, as > > > > > it's > > > > > taking the natural and expected biases of a small set of people > > > > > in > > > > > the project and forcing them into the entire project. > > > > > > > > Honestly, if the answers are all correct and we've been going around > > > > in > > > > circles since like forever, then having a small team decide that one > > > > of > > > > these correct answers is now the preferred one and we're going with it > > > > (after listening to all the arguments) hardly seems unfair to me. > > > > > > But then it become a steering committee and not a technical commitee. > > > > Actually, it seems that the Technical Committee has kinda always been > > doing > > both of these things: arbitration, and steering. > > The way the TC members are selected is not compatible with taking the role > of a steering committee (which need to be properly elected rather than > self-selected).
Agreed. For me, that's also why "steering" decisions have always been hard: hard because handed to the TC at a late stage, as last resort; hard decisions to take for the TC, with high stakes and emotions, etc. I feel it's also the main reason behind the refusal to _be_ the Roadmap Team from the TC. > (To avoid misunderstanding, I am not in favor of Debian getting a > steering committee. The steering should come from the DPL, who is > elected) It seems that this is what is intended by the current constitution. But we should really discuss what we need; and I'm not convinced that a steering group designated by an elected DPL [delegate] is that much better than a self- selected group vetted by the elected DPL [TC]. If we do give powers to a steering group, we could (and I argue we probably should) make it a body of elected individuals with fixed terms (renewability, grace periods, term overlaps, etc are important details of course). -- OdyX
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