On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:11:56PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > On 2013-10-06 16:25, Sven Luther wrote: > > Hi Niels, > > > > Hey, > > (Dropping -devel and -ports in exchange for -powerpc; sounded like you > weren't subscribed to -powerpc, so direct CC for you as well)
Seem fine. > > I don't know upto what point you are familiar with my history and its link > > to the powerpc > > port, but it pains me to see that the powerpc port is left with so few > > porters, and that it > > may mean the port being dropped. I also have not really followed the > > mailing lists since > > a long time, and don't know who is actually managing the powerpc port, but > > giving the (1) and > > 0.5 remark, i guess there is not a full porter. > > > > I am not familiar with your history, so I cannot comment on that part. I was kicked out of debian 7 years ago, due to a personal conflict with a couple of other DDs. I have left this behind me, and i think 7 years is enough for everyone to let this behind it, and 6 month ago, i was allowed again to post on debian lists, and there apparently was no negative feedback on that. Still I don't want to cause problems, even though i had one nice return to my mail which warmed my hearth, so before you add me or something, could you please check with the DPL or ask on debian-private or something to be sure this is ok. If you like more details please ask some other DDs who were there at the time, i think it is not my place to speak about it, and as said, it is history for me. > Based on the feedback I got so far we indeed (and still) only got one > DD backing powerpc and my interpretation of that response is that Roger > did not consider himself a "main/full" porter. So, I think the powerpc > port would do well with more DDs backing it. > > > So given that, and provided debian may not see a problem again in me > > becoming active, i may > > be interested in becoming active again as powerpc maintainer. Not sure what > > category you > > can include me in though, and what the formalities would be should i become > > active (and welcome) > > in debian again. > > Assuming you can work with the current powerpc porter(s), I believe > there should be no issue adding you as a non-DD porter for now. For > now, I have not added you to my list, but feel free to let me know if I > should ammend it. Well, i will most assuredly have no problem with working with anyone of good will, if you gave me (privately) the name of the porter and other volunteers, i could contact them to make sure they have no trouble with me (but back then i don't think there was any powerpc people with whom i had bad contact too, quite the contrary). I would need to get access to a debian/powerpc machine though, as i don't travel with a powerpc laptop anymore (my G4 powerbook hinges are broken and apple left powerpc), and i travel a lot. > > Also, i am not really sure of the amount of time i will be able to devote > > to debian, and i will > > have to take my powerpc hardware out of the storage area i put it in, but i > > guess it should be enough > > to do powerpc porting work, provided other folk help me out. That said, i > > am also interested in the > > powerpcspe port, as i am (slowly) working on a open-hardware Freescale > > P1010 based board. > > Time and devotion is probably the essence of this roll call. Above > everything else, we really want to know whether there are still active > people (or, rather, an active team) behind the ports, who can solve > problems in a timely fashion. Well, it mostly depends on the amount and complexity of the problems :) And what timely means. >From my experience as lead powerpc porter back then, there were usually no >major problems, powerpc being quite mainstream. That said, i don't know upto what point the port still stays in good shape today. > > Anyway, please let me know if there is anything i can do. > > > > Friendly, > > > > Sven Luther > > > > [...] > > Ensuring there is an active team behind the powerpc is a must; having > more active DDs behind it is currently a must[1]. I am sure there are > other possible ways to help the ppc port, but those two are the only > ones I am currently aware of. I would gladly become DD again in some future time, even if i don't think i will be taking as much responsability as i used to do, given my busy professional live. > ~Niels > > [1] As mentioned in the mail you replied to, we are considering to > revise the requirements for the number of DDs. But for now, the old > requirement of 5 DDs still stand. Well, as said, powerpc used to be in pretty much good shape, and didn't require much work. I don't think there ever were 5 DDs being really needed to keep it in shape. Friendly, Sven Luther > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131014080616.ga16...@plz.fr
