Jeroen Dekkers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:23:12AM +0100, David N. Welton wrote: > > Matthew Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > No. I _hate_ it when somebody cross-posts to a moderated list > > > I'm not a member of. I have flamed everybody involved in the > > > past for doing this stupid shit. If debian moderates its lists, > > > I _will_ leave the project. > > Why? The first time you send an email, it gets delayed a bit > > while waiting for a moderator to approve your address. It's just > > not really that inconvenient. I could see it being annoying if > > you got automated messages, your mail didn't get through, and so > > forth, but that doesn't happen. > Delaying a message unnecessary is invoncenient IMHO. But the most > inconvenient thing is that a moderator should approve the mail. That > costs time people could spend hacking or doing other nice things and > it doesn't solve a problem at all. Just wait until spammers get > smarter and start faking From: addresses. It doesn't matter if they fake addresses. It's easy to see from the content of a mail whether it's real or not. Yes, it costs a few people a few minutes, but it's not that hard. No action is necessary if it is spam. And once they approve it, the address is added to a 'whitelist', so there aren't problems in the future. This is something that is currently in place, and *works* for the ASF. In any case, I think AJ's solution is pretty good and is worth pursuing. > How do we solve the problem then? I think the answer is easy, just > make some good law against spam. Punish the people who send > spam. That would *solve* the problem, not work around it. So instead > of just the next message discussing about spam, talk to the > political persons in your country. > And although the answer is easy, I'm aware that getting such a law > isn't that easy. But that doesn't make impossible. Uh, let me know how it's going 10 years from now. Until then, I'll take a more practical solution. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/