[ Please leave me CC'ed ] Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My original point was that people who do not actually exercise > their franchise are unlikely to be one of the active set -- and need > to be looked at to see if they are indeed inactive. Having inactive > members is not itself unhealthy, except it does inflate quorum a > trifle, which can be bad in supermajority votes. That's fair enough. > Additionally, identifying inactive developers would help in > deciding which packages need attention; un maintained packages do > hurt the project. > This is not the place to discuss the rest of my position as > evidenced in the log; we can shift to -project for that. You go beyond looking at non-voters to pissing on those who maintain few packages - calling them a 'net loss' to the project. That's a disheartening position from someone so active in Debian. There's a big difference between saying, accurately, that the people who do a lot are much more important to the project, and discounting those who, for reasons unbeknownst to you may not be that active at any given moment. Debian acts as a 'stepping stone' for many people - it gives them a way to get involved in the free software world without being an expert hacker. *Everyone* here started with one package. We need to accept that some people will never really contribute more, and that others will grow into positions of greater contribution. Others, having contributed a lot in the past, maybe decide to step back for a while. I think that we should continue to support these people. Furthermore, 'package count' is a bad metric in any case, as there are people who are active in translation, or maybe maintain difficult packages, so beyond negativity, your comments don't seem to point to any way to actually improve the project, but just complain. Manoj, I think that you really enjoy debate, but at times you go too far, and end up pissing people off for no really good reason other than your enjoyment of a good flamewar. Even if you are right about something, being harsher than necessary is not helpful behavior. Of course Manoj isn't the only one who is guilty of this. I think we all do it at times, and we need to be mindful of it. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/