Am 2006-03-15 14:45:25, schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > > There were < 100 subscribers from uol.com.br and that ISPs challenge / > > response mechanism is affecting (at least) > 5000 people. > > First, the hurt of even one innocent person being kicked out is, again > in my opinion, bigger than the pain from having to delete autoresponses.
I have gotten more then 1000 of them! > Second, I doubt that there are over five thousand posters on the lists > in question. I could be wrong, of course. Two lists: <debian-user> and <debian-devel> > Thanks, I enjoy being compared to spammers. 1st) I have not ask to get over 1000 CR's from someone I do not know. 2nd) I have tried to click on the link several times but it continued to bother me every day with CR's. > * The bounce test you sent in December did not seem to use VERP, that > is, sending the test message so that the Return-Path and From headers > are both specific to the recipient. Have you tried that? (I am guessing > here that the bounce test didn't work because the automatic response > didn't have any indication which message it was a response to. VERPs are > one way of doing that.) Right, I have checked on of those mails I have gotten to. The messges does not look like a message coming from the Mailinglist, becasue it was sliping throgh my filters and ended in my SPAM-Folder. I would suggest to create a Message which is EXACTLY like the list messages but with a modified Subject line like "Question about filtering CR reponses with no $SERIAL" Where $SERIAL is a numeric identifier of the subscribers of the list. > * Ask someone in Brazil to call up the petsupermarket people on the > phone and see who there is interested in Debian and if they could please > not forward their Debian list subscriptions to uol.com.br? Allready done... no success! > * Do a big "spring/fall cleanup" and unsubscribe *everyone*, with due > advance notice of course. The linux-kernel list did that at least once, > many years ago. This is different from kicking off only uol.com.br > subscribers, since it will get rid of the offending address (and also > any other people who are too lazy to unsubscribe, of course). Admittedly > it is highly radical. (When people re-subscribe, keep time stamps of > when they do that, to correlate with if the problem still comes back.) No good idea... Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/88452356 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]