On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:27:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > >Well, you where not opposed to the likes of Frans, Manoj and Anthony, ... > > I think I tend to express my disagreement in different amplitude but even > more importantly different *frequency*. > > >>I wonder if sending mails like this to debian-project is your idea of > >>going inactive. > > > >What does it matter anymore, > > Try to think about it tomorrow, after having calmed down. I think you > will find reasons not to blame a whole project as you did in your heated > mail. > > >What was done here, independently of my fault or not, is ... > > Didn't we got enough Google hits now for things you said about Debian? > > >Well, i don't use a different mailing list, i simply bring this on a forum > >where i am not banned, and can participate, since debian likes to handle > >this > >kind of problems in secret hiding holes, untrue the transparency and > >open-ness > >which we all agreed to in the social contract. > > Well, if I personally have found out that some behaviour turned out to be > not the best in the end - and I assume you do not feel very good - I would > try to do something different instead of doing exactly the same on a > different place.
And did i not do it ? I asked for help on #debian-devel, and was asked to avoid the mailing lists, and to write a static page, so i wrote the wiki page, which ended with : An last a personal message to Frans, remember when we where in Extremadura, we had a good time, and we worked side by side. I seriously lament that it all degenerated like it did. I certainly have my part of responsability in this, but i passed though times, as you know. Let's put pride and arrogance and remembrance of past hurts aside, and let's again work on d-i all together, as it should be. and got as reply : 01:18 <fjp> My honest opinion of it: the biggest load of self-satisfied and self-centered crap I've ever seen (Which interestngly enough, Frans erased from the wiki shortly before the expulsion process started). I have tried agreeing to the hallucinating result of Fabio's mediation, under Anthony's strong insistence, and been silent, and the first thing i hear before even this period is over, is that there is an expulsion process against me. I damn even helped Frans while he was having trouble during his d-i presentation at FOSDEM with his X config, even though he just passed beside me a few hours before purposefully ignoring me and not returning my greeting. So, whatever you say, i have been handled unfairly, the decision just reached by the DAMs is a a disgrace to debian, and symptomatic of this whole mess, and silence will not help. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]