On 30/05/08 at 18:24 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:49:14AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Now, what we don't agree on: > > - I think that giving some time should only be very strongly > > recommended, but not mandatory. > > - You think that giving some time should be mandatory. > > > I think that our opinions are basically the same. The difference is that > > you want to write something in stone, while I prefer not to impose rules > > where it's not necessary, because: > > This is begging the question. Experience tells me that the sort of rules > under discussion *are* necessary.
You are still talking about the rule "The maintainer *MUST* give some time to react before uploading the NMU", right? > > - If you make it mandatory, then you have to provide a workaround for > > cases where it's just not possible to wait. And you also have to list > > those cases. > > And, so? That's what we have today. What's the problem with this that > you're trying to fix? No, that's not what we have today. What we have today is the release team deciding that it has authority to change the NMU rules, to allow 0-day NMUs for bugs older than 7 days old. - Does the RT really have authority ? - 0-day means "no need to give some time to the maintainer". You uploaded a lot of such NMUs yourself, sometimes on packages with an active maintainer, without even providing a patch on the BTS previously. You realize that this discussion about the "NMUers must give some time to the maintainer"-rule also affects the current 0-day NMU policy? One of the goals of the DEP is to make the 0-day NMU policy useless, by generalizing it to all bugs (with "delay" > 0 and "delay" a function of the severity of bugs being fixed). Now, there are two patches to the DEP that try to address the current wording. See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. I would really appreciate comments on those patches. That would be a lot more useful than general discussions about rules. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
