Hi Qactuar, NB: crossposting to debian-devel since my question below is Debian developers oriented
sad to hear that you had such a displeasure... as an excuse I can only say that it is not necessarily that people who "advised" you on the IRC channels you have tried -- are the ones who "develop" Debian. Chat rooms are open to anyone to participate so YMMV, so if I were you I would be more careful on the judgments about the project. As far as installation goes -- it should have been quite straightforward having you chosen official images/instructions from http://www.debian.org/distrib/ and just following questions of Debian installation process which gives you options to facilitate installation of Debian in your scenario. If something doesn't work -- then please state what was not... BUT your unfortunate experience lead me to actual question now: why http://irc.debian.org leads to a webpage which visually seems to have nothing with Debian in its appearance? I understand that it leads to OFTC servers, but indeed it might be confusing for newcomers. Could we ask for a VirtualHost entry for "irc.debian.org" with few simple pages so we have adequate appearance/description ? Cheers, On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, Qactuar Rogue wrote: > Hi. > I was planning on installing Debian on a new laptop that had Windows 7 > pre-installed. > I was researching the methods of installation for two weeks > (partitioning etc). > Then right before beginning the disk wipe and later the installation > I had problems deciding on my own for what kind of partition table to > create > and wanted to have feedback from somebody who has a comprehensive > understanding on the subject. > I went on IRC. Firstly I tried #Debian on irc.debian.org then I tried > #Debian at chat.freenode.com > I would like to express my greatest disappointment regarding the > `helpfulness` of the people on the channel. > On irc.debian.org everyone was a complete dumbass. On both channels I > was told off for asking my questions by PMing someone > who replied to my posting on the channel. My nick was Ti-chan. You can > research if you please. > I did nothing, just kindly asked for help regarding partitioning. > In a community that is supposed to stand for friendship and kindness, > on a channel that is there for helping people > who choose Linux as an alternative, having people behave with you so > unkindly is a shame. > I still want Linux. I hate Windows. Microsoft is a disgusting > transnational organization. > I do not want Debian anymore however. I do not wish to use software > developed by those > people who are surfing on your IRC channels, thank you very much. > I also considered investing into the Debian project by donating > millions of dollars. > To help the creation of software which can effectively conquer the > popularity of Windows, > A software which reaches most end users and helps them understand the > pros of Linux and the cons of Windows. > So that the computing world is reformed and pulled out of the shit it > is currently deep in. > I chose Debian because it is a community driven development project. > Free of the idiotic marketing strategies and instability of other > distributions. > I would be most grateful if this message reached one of your key > people. > I do not understand how such negative experiences can happen to anybody > in the Linux world. > As a human being I am truly ashamed for such unkind people and as a > denizen of this planet I am outraged > that entire projects can slip because of people`s bad experience with > Linux. > Nobody can be surprised that most home users go for Windows. Many bad > things can be said about > Microsoft but they at least have the obligation of keeping an effective > customer support service up and going. > Thanks for reading my random ramble mortal. > You may return to your duties. > We may hear of each other again. I may consider creating my own > foundation for an all new OS. > Friendly greetings, > TAKA -- =------------------------------------------------------------------= Keep in touch www.onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko www.ohloh.net/accounts/yarikoptic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111001002932.gl5...@onerussian.com