]] Matthias Urlichs > Hi, > > Tollef Fog Heen: > > Matthias Urlichs > > > Too true. This GR does not have winners. We all lost. > > > > No, we all won. We won because we said that «we have processes for > > this». > > We do have processes for this, but the interaction of reasonable people and > working processes with not-so-reasonable people (note that I'm not blaming > a specific "side" here) definitely resulted in misguided (ab?)use of our > processes (in the opinion of a large majority of developers) -- altogether > an experience I wouldn't want to repeat any time soon. If ever. :-/
Yes, in this case it was one of those cases where one group wanted to (and my apologies for the war-like metaphor here) call in the heavy artillery. The project said «no, we have better mechanisms for this». That's certainly a course correction, but that's fine. > So, yes we «won» in the sense that the mandate to get over our mutual > pigheadedness and start to bloody *talk* to each other was sent loud and > clear (let's hope it'll be received), but along the way we lost a heap of > trust in each other which will have to be regained. It's not only a mandate, it's a directive. It's the metaphorical parent going «why are you running to me to solve this problem? You know how to fix this already!». > > I sure hope we are. It won't be easy, but I think we are. If I didn't, > > I'd not have been here still. > > Same here. > > Well. Enough of that. Back to getting actual work done! ;-) Yupyup. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87sihd8rsq....@xoog.err.no