On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 10:22:35PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi Ian > > On 2019/03/30 20:46, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Paul Wise writes ("Re: metaphors and feminism"): > >> Personally I think the phrase "Debian Developer" and the abbreviation > >> DD is a relic of an earlier era when the set of tasks available to > >> Debian contributors were more technical and less varied. > > > > As the person perhaps most responsible for the choice of the word > > `Developer' I think your explanation is very ... charitable. It is > > certainly clear to at least me that it is the wrong word. > > > >> I try to use "Debian member" in mails since it is clearer what that > >> means to a larger set of people and I'd like to see Debian culture > >> (and perhaps the official documents) move towards that too. > > > > I see other people doing this too. I like it. > > > > The problem of course is that the official term is not "member" so > > this is unclear and arguably wrong in some sense. It should be. I > > would second a GR to change it. > > > > There is also a problem with acronyms. Debian Member => "DM" but we > > already have "Debian Maintainers". I think it would be best to rename > > Debian Maintainers too. Particularly since you can be a maintainer of > > a package in Debian without having your key in the Debian Maintainers' > > keyring, so this term is very confusing. > > +1 on renaming Debian Maintainers too in such a scenario. > > > ADM = "Authorised Debian Maintainers" or "Assistant/Associate Debian > > Members" or something maybe ? > > So, how about: > > DM: Debian Members. Full members of the project that can represent > themselves as such, vote in elections, and have a @debian.org email > address. (Pretty much what a DD and non-uploading DD is).
VDM: Vetted Debian Members. Mike