On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:12:54AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:13 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
Most people running interactive VMs (e.g., on a desktop with a
graphical console) aren't using Xen, they're using kvm or virtualbox
or just about anything else.
While the number is probably less, some people (including Debian
contributors) are using Qubes (which is based on Xen) on desktops:
https://www.qubes-os.org/
*I* use qubes, as well as xen on its own, which is why I'm fairly
comfortable asserting that bullseye works just fine for typical use
cases on both platforms. I haven't taken any particular measures to work
around the bug under discussion--it's just never come up. In qubes you
aren't generally working with a virtualized bare metal system (i.e.,
watching a bios boot screen come up on a virtual monitor after booting
from an iso), you're interacting with a templated thin vm via
qubes-specific I/O channels. The underlying tech may be xen, but the way
it is used is different.
(Conversely, when I do want that "boot a virtual bare metal system from
an ISO" experience I do so on a different computer, currently via KVM
and previously via virtualbox or vmware.)