On 7/6/20 8:33 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: > Python 3.8 upstream now has a common ABI for normal and debug extension > builds, > so it is technically possible to load a debug extension in the normal > interpreter, or to load a normal extension in the debug interpreter. In > Debian, > debug extensions are shipped with a different name, and only loaded by the > corresponding interpreter. We could change / simply the current setup, but I > first wanted to know how many people are still using the debug builds. The > reason for the separate debug builds allowed debugging of stuff in modules > further down the Python stack, without having to rebuild the whole stack. > There > are several solutions how to simplify the packaging, I'm not sure how much the > dbg extensions are still used ... There are several scenarios: > > - Keep the current setup (-dbg packages need to be available to > run them). > > - Allow the debug interpreter to load normal debug extensions (but > load a debug extension if it's available by default). That would > allow building debug extensions without having debug extensions > built for all it's dependencies, maybe requiring changes in the > dependencies of a package. > > - Stop building debug extensions, and telling developers to > build extensions in debug mode, if they need them. That would > probably be inline with everything else shipped in Debian. > > - Stop building debug extensions, and also stop building the Python > debug interpreter. You would need to rebuild the interpreter > itself to have meaningful debug sessions. I'm not preferring > this solution. > > I'm currently tending to implement the second scenario, but if people think > that > having the -dbg packages available is still useful, then also opt for the > third > option.
Let's address this before we start adding Python 3.10 as a supported Python3 version. Starting with the third option. I'll file bug reports for the following packages: basemap bottleneck cbflib dbus-python gpyfft gst-python1.0 h5py kiwisolver libgpuarray libkdtree++ libtorrent-rasterbar libxml2 lxml markupsafe matplotlib meliae mpi4py netifaces nipy numexpr numpy pairtools pillow pillow-sane psycopg2 pyao pycairo pychm pycuda pycurl pyepr pyfai pyfuse3 pygccjit pygobject pyicu pymad pymca pynfft pyopencl pyqt5 pyqt5chart pyqt5-sip pyqt5webengine pysendfile pystemmer pytables python3-defaults python3-stdlib-extensions python-aiohttp python-apsw python-apt python-bsddb3 python-cffi python-djvulibre python-dmidecode python-fabio python-fisx python-gevent python-greenlet python-ldap python-levenshtein python-librtmp python-llfuse python-ltfatpy python-multidict python-mysqldb python-psutil python-pygraphviz python-pylibacl python-pyxattr python-regex python-reportlab python-setproctitle python-sfml pyyaml pyzmq qscintilla2 reprozip rrdtool scipy silx simplejson sip4 sip5 sip6 storm thrift twisted uvloop xrayutilities zope.interface dd-list: Alexander Wirt <[email protected]> rrdtool (U) Alexandre Marie <[email protected]> python-fisx (U) silx (U) xrayutilities (U) Andreas Beckmann <[email protected]> pycuda (U) pyopencl (U) Andrew Starr-Bochicchio <[email protected]> libtorrent-rasterbar (U) Antoni Villalonga <[email protected]> pairtools (U) Antonio Valentino <[email protected]> numexpr (U) pyepr (U) pytables (U) python-ltfatpy (U) APT Development Team <[email protected]> python-apt Aron Xu <[email protected]> libxml2 (U) Brian May <[email protected]> python-mysqldb (U) Christoph Berg <[email protected]> psycopg2 (U) Colin Watson <[email protected]> storm (U) Cristian Greco <[email protected]> libtorrent-rasterbar Dave Beckett <[email protected]> pycairo (U) David Cournapeau <[email protected]> scipy (U) Debian Games Team <[email protected]> python-sfml Debian GIS Project <[email protected]> pyepr Debian GNOME Maintainers <[email protected]> pygobject Debian Med Packaging Team <[email protected]> nipy pairtools Debian NVIDIA Maintainers <[email protected]> pycuda Debian OpenCL Maintainers <[email protected]> pyopencl Debian Python Modules Team <[email protected]> bottleneck kiwisolver (U) markupsafe (U) netifaces pycairo pychm (U) pyicu (U) pyqt5-sip pysendfile (U) python-dmidecode (U) python-ldap python-multidict (U) python-mysqldb python-regex (U) Debian Python Team <[email protected]> basemap (U) matplotlib (U) numpy (U) psycopg2 pycurl pyfuse3 pyqt5 pyqt5chart pyqt5webengine pystemmer python-aiohttp python-cffi python-fisx python-levenshtein (U) python-llfuse (U) python-psutil (U) python-pygraphviz (U) python-setproctitle pyyaml pyzmq qscintilla2 scipy simplejson sip4 sip5 sip6 storm twisted uvloop (U) zope.interface Debian QA Group <[email protected]> libkdtree++ python-bsddb3 python-djvulibre Debian RRDtool Team <[email protected]> rrdtool Debian Science Maintainers <[email protected]> cbflib gpyfft h5py libgpuarray mpi4py numexpr pyfai pymca pynfft pytables python-fabio python-ltfatpy reprozip silx xrayutilities Debian XML/SGML Group <[email protected]> libxml2 Dmitry Shachnev <[email protected]> pyqt5 (U) pyqt5-sip (U) pyqt5webengine (U) sip4 (U) sip5 (U) sip6 (U) Eugen Wintersberger <[email protected]> xrayutilities (U) Fabio Tranchitella <[email protected]> psycopg2 (U) Francesco Paolo Lovergine <[email protected]> pyfuse3 (U) Ghe Rivero <[email protected]> pysendfile Ghislain Antony Vaillant <[email protected]> bottleneck (U) h5py (U) libgpuarray (U) pynfft (U) reprozip (U) Gordon Ball <[email protected]> python-setproctitle (U) Gudjon I. 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