* Hervé Eychenne [Sat, 08 Jan 2005 04:33:05 +0100]: > Some ask why the submitter has not submitted the bug directly to > upstream when noticing months after that nothing had happened. Once > more, I regret: if the submitter gets no feedback, he'll consider > that the upstream team had hard times chasing the bug (some bugs are > tricky), certainly not that the Debian guys has left his report in the > bottom of the barrel for months. Do you actually understand that?
no, because (unless the person doing it forgets to) you get a mail when your bug is forwarded upstream. > The submitter just does what Debian asks/allows him to do, and he has > no way to know in advance if his bug will stay unprocessed (I didn't > say solved) for ages or quickly forwarded and eventually solved. see above. > Oh, I forgot: it is _not_ the submitter's job to monitor every bug > he filled, just because the submitter can absolutely not imagine > that his report might well _not be processed at all_ for months, > years, decad^Wok, trollinit aborted. again, see above. > "When Debian KDE processing times might well take way longer than upstream > fixing ones". Nice title, but sad tale. "When Debian users make maintainers feel hurt, and not valued, and willing to quit." That's nicer, even. > Sorry if I'm becoming more and more sarcastic, but I feel that some > are more concerned with finding any excuse for justifying the > unjustifiable, rather than actually trying to analyze the reasons and > change things so that this will not happen again. three random things that I did for Debian today: - http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-commits/2005-January/000171.html - http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/01/msg00434.html - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=274779&msg=26 plus about 10 mails to handle KDE bugs in debian. just to find out, at the end of the day, some nice guy complaining about a bug not having being handled. it's *true* that sometimes you need a fucking thick skin to stay here. still: - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=247312&msg=43 > Seems like we all like discussions, no, I like to get things done and make my users happy. some of them won't let me, though. > Please process _every_ new bugs (but old ones may also require that as a > start) within a week: yes sir! could you give me your bank account number so that I can give you some euros for this great piece of advice? > Herve getting on dato's nerves. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Proper treatment will cure a cold in seven days, but left to itself, a cold will hang on for a week. -- Darrell Huff