Hi, Just wanted to make it clear the the email i sent about Neomail was purely to let other people know about a program that i thought was worth mentioning, it had nothing to do with Ernie Miller and was not intended to be SPAM.
Im sorry if i have caused you problems Ernie this is the last thing i wanted to do. In future i will keep my discoveries to my self ! Marcel Ernie Miller wrote: > Andrew, > > The NeoMail project's only member is me. I have nothing to do with this > guy, and though I'm happy he's happy with NeoMail, this is clearly > inappropriate behavior. I'm copying this mail to the perpetrator address as > listed in your forward, so he understands that I don't encourage this type > of behavior, but I don't have any affiliation with him. I'd have been > plenty happy if NeoMail hadn't become as popular as it is, and would > certainly not be advertising, as I can't really handle the NeoMail-related > e-mail I receive now as it is. > > When you say "further damage," you imply my reputation is already > damaged in the open-source community as-is, which I don't believe it to > be -- unless someone were to mistake these mails as being originated by or > condoned by me, and you are referring to this incident. Hence my response > to the list, hopefully clearing my name since you've opted to submit the > accusation to the list as well. > > Wait a second... upon rereading this mail I did in fact notice a mail in > my inbox this morning from someone in Australia ranting about how much he > liked NeoMail and that he had wasted money on a commercial solution prior to > finding it. The mail is at home, but I'd wager this is the same guy. In > any case, I'm sorry that he got a bit overexcited, and I hope everyone > understands I had nothing to do with it. > > If you need anything further from me feel free to reply to this address. > > Thanks! > > Ernie Miller > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Debian-Security List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 7:55 AM > Subject: Re: NEOMAIL - as big kev in OZ would say, IM EXCITED ! > > Dear Ernie Miller, > I'm forwarding you this piece of spam that was recently sent > to debian-security mailing list. It is also archived at > <http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2002/debian-security-200204/msg0007 > 3.html>. Being > unable to find a Marcel Welschbillig listed on your SourceForge > project page, I have decided against forwarding this to SourceForge > abuse staff in the present time seeing as I am unable to determine > whether this spam was authourised or not by you anyone acting on > behalf of the NeoMail project. However, this piece of spam has been > previously listed on the Razor <http://razor.sourceforge.net> webiste > as spam which would leave me to believe that this is not a one-off > incident. Please take action to stop further spam if you do know this > person or else it unsolicted advertising promoting your project will > only further damage your reputation among the opensource community. > > Yours sincerely, > Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau > > ----- Forwarded message from Marcel Welschbillig > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- > > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=netsnipe) > by espresso with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) > id 16tNxs-0001v9-00 > for <netsnipe@localhost>; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:16:52 +1000 > Received: from pop3.iprimus.com.au [203.134.64.85] > by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.11) > for netsnipe@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:16:52 +1000 (EST) > Received: from mx01.iprimus.com.au ([203.134.64.90]) by loc01.iprimus.com.au > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.647.64); > Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:58:04 +1000 > Received: from murphy.debian.org ([65.125.64.134]) by mx01.iprimus.com.au > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); > Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:58:03 +1000 > Received: (qmail 15663 invoked by uid 38); 5 Apr 2002 01:56:55 -0000 > X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: (qmail 15618 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2002 01:56:52 -0000 > Received: from unknown (HELO vager2.comdek.net.au) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 2002 01:56:52 -0000 > Received: from comdek.net.au (marcel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by vager2.comdek.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id > JAA03755 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:42:12 +0800 > X-Authentication-Warning: vager2.comdek.net.au: Host marcel@localhost > [127.0.0.1] claimed to be comdek.net.au > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:42:11 +0800 > From: Marcel Welschbillig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.4 i686; en-US; m18) > Gecko/20001107 Netscape6/6.0 > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: Debian-Security List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: NEOMAIL - as big kev in OZ would say, IM EXCITED ! > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Resent-Message-ID: <7Put8B.A.m0D.nRQr8@murphy> > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/6720 > X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> > List-Unsubscribe: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2002 01:58:03.0834 (UTC) > FILETIME=[528449A0:01C1DC45] > Resent-Bcc: > Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:16:52 +1000 > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.0 required=5.0 tests=PLING,RAZOR_CHECK > version=2.11 > Status: RO > Lines: 22 > > Hi, > > Sorry know this is off topic but.... > > I Just wanted everyone to know about NeoMail > > http://neomail.sourceforge.net > > Its a fully functional Webmail server that looks better and is more > functional than many commercial servers and its FREE ! And easy to setup ! > > Know someone out there will be as excited about this program as i am, > wish i would have known about it earlier. > > HAPPY LINUXING ! > > Marcel > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > * Andrew 'Netsnipe' Lau DebianPlanet.org Editor & Comp.Sci, UNSW * > * "apt-get into it" Debian GNU/Linux Maintainer * > * <netsnipe @/ debianplanet.org> <awhl435 @/ cse.unsw. edu.au> * > * PGP: 1024D/2E8B68BD: 0B77 73D0 4F3B F286 63F1 9F4A 9B24 C07D 2E8B 68BD * > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
