On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:29:46PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > Requiring users to install an important component (which Mozilla is) from > other sources is a bad idea in this context. I think it should not be the > way how Debian solves it's problems.
in thecase of mozilla this is not entirely true. I don't see any program depending on mozilla (and not belonging to the mozilla-family) that cannot be made dependant on other browsers. so it might be possible to write a script or dummy package that only integrates an upstream-mozilla in the current debian-system (just like those scripts that do the same for sun or ibm jre): - user/admin installs mozilla from upstream - installs mozilla-dummy - runs `gimme-mozilla-upstream --make-it-default-browser` - is - more or less - happy. The job for Debian would then be to - take care the script doesn't break anything - take care it works with current releases of mozilla. (as long as current mozilla runs on debian) > >> (2). If binary incompatibility is detected, > > > > ... which is most probably going to happen... > > Do you have enough statistics to make this statement? it happened to Mozilla and woody: upstream made mozilla depend on e newer libc. There was no way to install a new mozilla on old stable. As a matter of fact things like this will happen again. it's just a matter of time. > > >> these packages should conflict > >> with incompatible versions of all packages in Debian that depend on > > > > So you provide mozilla, but throw out other packages away? > > Of course no. We should provide upgrades for all packages in the set at the > same time. this will be, as already has been said, a hard job, should one of these packages be one of the core libraries or packages (like libc, gnome-something or others). Some packages have a really huge set of dependencies, one way or the other. g'night Horst -- Whistler: "I want peace on earth and good will toward man." Abbott: "Oh, this is ridiculous!" Bishop: "He's serious." Whistler: "I want peace on earth and goodwill towards men." Abbott: "We're the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing!" Bishop: "You're just gonna have to try." Abbott: "All right, I'll see what I can do!" Whistler: "Thank you very much. That's all I ask." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]