Lucky you, but not everyone, especially outside of Germany, has access to 
secure technology for banking.



On 17. Mai 2014 19:03:41 MESZ, Sven Bartscher 
<sven.bartsc...@weltraumschlangen.de> wrote:
>On Sat, 17 May 2014 18:57:35 +0200
>Franz Brandl <franz.bra...@runbox.com> wrote:
>
>> May be off topic, but IMO one should use an OS booted from DVD or
>write protected USB Stick for online banking.
>
>Assuming that no remote attacker can plug my HBCI-cardreader into the
>USB-HUB, I think that is not necessary. 
>> On 17. Mai 2014 18:50:42 MESZ, Sven Bartscher
><sven.bartsc...@weltraumschlangen.de> wrote:
>> >On Sun, 18 May 2014 01:36:44 +0900
>> >Joel Rees <joel.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> There are more reasons than the X11 hole to refrain from using
>> >your
>> >> >> admin user to surf the web.
>> >> >
>> >> > Just out of curiosity, what are these reasons?
>> >> 
>> >> Your browser and any plugins, addons, etc. that it loads,
>including
>> >> java, flash, java/ecmascript, and, well, any scripting language
>the
>> >> browser can be running, for starters.
>> >> 
>> >> Shoot, if my memory serves me, I seem to remember a class of
>> >> vulnerabilities that has never really been answered, involving
>> >pushing
>> >> keyboard loggers into the keyboard controller itself.
>> >> 
>> >> >> If you are worried about needing to find answers to admin
>problems
>> >by
>> >> >> searching the web, lynx helps somewhat. But I still restrict
>the
>> >> >> places I visit with lynx while running as an admin to my search
>> >engine
>> >> >> site, certain subdomains of debian.org, and such.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not only worried about my admin account.
>> >> > This is still a big security-hole for non-admins.
>> >> 
>> >> The web is not safe. If you do internet banking, at least make a
>> >> separate, dedicated account for that, too. And if you go places
>where
>> >> maybe you should not let you go, re-think your reasons for going.
>> >
>> >So basically I would need one account for surfing, one for
>> >online-banking, ssh(-agent) and other important stuff and an
>> >admin-account. Some accounts I missed?
>> >
>> >I know that's not gonna help, but I fell like there should be a
>better
>> >way to isolate processes.
>> >
>> >PS: Please don't CC me
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >Sven
>> 
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