And a single point of failure?

On 19/07/07, andrew holway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is exactly the point I was trying to get across. Assuming your
not using vista there is no reason why you need more than one
computer. What are these old systems doing for you? a bit of dns?
Maybe some kind of webserver? mail?

I have all these thing running in virtual environments on 1 PC which I
also use as my workstation.

It is a responsibility that we must all face to consolidate our
computing to use the smallest amount of resources.

Andrew

On 19/07/07, Mark Morgan Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Jordan Bettis wrote:
>
> > Like Chris said, new machines generally draw a lot more power overall.

> > My Ultra 5 that I use as my desktop can draw 200W max, and probably
> > doesn't really draw much over 100W total. Compare that to a typical
> > modern PC desktop that has a 400W supply in it and probably draws well

> > over 200W, mostly to power a GPU so it can display silly bouncing
> > icons and semi-transparent window edges.
>
> There are two separate things to take into account here. The first is
the
> quiescent consumption, I admit to not having values from a number of
systems
> so for the sake of argument I'll agree that this is generally
increasing.
> However I'd suggest that if a computer is sitting there doing noting
you'd be
> better looking for ways to power it off or use a shared computing
resource-
> Sunray or whatever.
>
> The second thing- where I do have numbers to back up my argument- is how
much
> energy is consumed to perform a unit of work. My figures, by and large,
show
> that while running a "torture test" a range of computers consume between
60
> and 550W, with no overwhelming correlation with their age. On the other
hand
> the time to complete a unit of work has dropped dramatically over the
last 20
> years, which leads me to suggest that by and large the energy consumed
per
> unit of work has also dropped significantly.
>
> Looking at two extreme cases:
>
> SPARCstation 20, 2 jobs, 130W (175VA)                   8m12.582s
1,068
>
> Compaq AP550 1GHz, 768Mb, 8 jobs, 135W (180VA)          0m42.730
96
>
> That last column is W-min to complete a given workload, selecting the
best
> (fastest) figures by splitting it into a number of jobs.
>
> So assuming that the quiescent consumption is equal you're /far/ better
off
> with a newer system since even if it consumes substantially more power
while
> working hard it does so for far less time.
>
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