Martin Schulze wrote: > > Greg Vence writes: > > > > ae is on board. > > > > > > > I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there > > > > anymore? :-) > > > > > > We already faught the fight before - and lost. ae won. :-( > > > There's a set of macros which can turn ae in a vi-mode. This > > > might be included in further releases. > > > > > I've never seen a base-line Unix box w/o vi that was what prompted the > > initial mail. > > Me too. Apart from the fact that i cannot understand the decision > I don't want to perform this fight a second time. This was the decision > and now we should al live with it until we find a better solution > (which could mean finding a very small vi or reducing elvis to only > support basic functions that makes it very small; or the above mentioned > vi-macros) > > Apart from the fact that I need a vi, many new users won't ever use > vi if they find it. vi is a tool for freaks, hackers and gurus ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(therefore > it's a very good editor for us...). Beginners are very happy with ae > because they can see which commands they can type. It is really an > easy editor. Therefore it should be included in the base set. :-) > > Regards, > > Joey > > -- > / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / > / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Well I am not sure I fit into any of those categories (well, maybe the first one). When I was in school, my UNIX teacher had one immutable law; "Thou shalt learn vi". His argument was that no matter what flavor of unix you happen to come across in your career as a unix administrator, there will always be vi on the system. I have to admit there have been times I was very grateful he made me learn it. Having worked with at least 9 flavors of unix, it was the most valuable lesson I learned in school. -- Ken Gaugler N6OSK Santa Clara, California email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.wco.com/~keng "The life of a Repo Man is always INTENSE..."