On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote: > > Until the copyright is assigned, they get the same international > > protection as any other copyright holder, and the work is still > > "theirs." > > > > As an anarchist, surely you understand that all property is a > > creature of the state that creates and recognizes it. > > As an anarco-capitalist (minarchist if you wanna get technical) I > understand the state does not inherently own everything. In fact it > owns nothing. (No matter what it may think)
that's right. you loony libertarians just refuse to admit that property "rights" are granted BY the State. Without a State to maintain (enforce) legal fictions there is no such thing as property. > Even though you've heard me mention the term, I don't believe in > collectism. (certainly not if it is forced) But what Debian IS, is a > communal project that is 'owned' (if you can consider it property) > by the developers as a whole. if you truly believe stuff like that, then why are you attempting to infringe on our rights by telling us what to do with our property? oh, that's right, i forgot: one of the benefits of subscribing to lunatic fringe political/economic theories is that you don't have to remain consistent within your ideological or ethical frame-work. you can chop and change whenever you like...in fact, the more insane and outrageous the inconsistency, the better. > I'm not anti commercialism! I own my own damn business for god > stakes! But THAT IS NOT WHAT DEBIAN IS ABOUT. debian is many things to many people. who the hell are you to define what debian is and isn't about? > If you are the wiser just tell me "Dave you're insane. Here's the law, > and some cases that prove otherwise" and I'll be quiet. Dave, you're insane. you've already admitted that you're an anarcho-capitalist. that's good enough evidence for me. > But please don't disreguard what I've said based purely on your > disagreement with my poiltics. I feel I've raised some very valid > points. you've found one person who (at least partially) agrees with you or considers your points valid. i don't think i've seen anyone else agreeing with you. Now normally I think that democracy and popular decisions are for sheep, but i've worked with people in debian for long enough to have a great deal of respect for the intelligence and competence of the debian team. (one of the reasons i like debian is that there are some very smart people involved, making some very smart decisions). craig -- craig sanders networking consultant Available for casual or contract temporary autonomous zone system administration tasks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .