i've decided to give xemacs another go and see if i like it any better than i did last time :-).
i'm running it with viper, so at least most of the vi keys that i'm used to are still there. I don't like emacs keybindings and am not willing to change to them. i like vi. i'm also beginning to like gnus a lot. it is, as many people have said, the best newsreader around. gnus is actually the reason i'm willing to spend some time on xemacs again. gnus and viper make it worth the effort i think. however, what's missing is a good simple mail client...one that doesn't do weird things to my mail folders. I need to read my mail from many different machines. currently i use pine and imap for that, and it works well. I've tried both the mail clients which come with the xemacs20 package (VM and MH). I don't like either...they've got lots of features but don't work in the way that i want them to. VM isn't too far wrong, but it's horribly slow...which makes xemacs unusable. try loading a 6MB mail spool file (e.g. a few weeks worth of debian-user :-) to see what i mean....it's slower than pine, and doesn't allow you to switch to another xemacs frame/window to work on something else while it's loading/sorting/whatever. it wouldn't be so bad if xemacs was multi-threaded but it isn't. features i need: - multiple mail directories e.g. ~/Mail/Lists/debian/users/incoming could contain numerous mail folders such as "incoming", "9707", "9708", etc. optional extra would be for transparent decompression of files like "9701.gz" - multiple incoming folders e.g. ~/Mail/Lists/debian/users/incoming - imap support would be good. in fact, all of the above could be done with an imap implementation similar to pine's. - pgp and mime, of course. - search, selection, and operations (save, delete, fwd, etc) on selected messages similar to how pine does it now. i guess what i'm looking for is a blend of xemacs/gnus and pine/elm. anyone know of an email client for xemacs which does this? craig -- craig sanders networking consultant Available for casual or contract temporary autonomous zone system administration tasks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .