I should be able to do this: telnet 127.0.0.1
from my machine (telneting to myself) but I get this: Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused Same when trying to ftp, etc. I looked for a HOWTO on xinetd, but didn't see anything. So where should I look to solve this? /etc/hosts.allow ALL: LOCAL ALL:<this machine name> /etc/hosts.deny ALL:PARANOID #(I tried commenting that out) I use pppd, and I get the same behavior when I try to connect back to my machine when I telnet from my ISP shell account. I'm a little confused... what am I missing??? Thanks -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .