Thanks to a major effort from Jens Jorgensen, who finally found an error in the FM, I now have ppp running over a modem trough a moodem pool and telnet server.
I'm now tring to get it to run through the ISN line, which is a little trickier. I found the BREAK option to use in the script, which gets me connected to a similar server, but there reaches a point when, after the second sent message, the other end replies with "ANSWERED", at which point any key must be hit to bring up the menu. It sees this response, recognizes the ANSWERED, and sends "" (just a blank line). At this point, it seems to hang, regardless of what I do. It can't be ppp queries from the other end, since it hasn't connected to my machine yet. It simply waits for "keys:", which is the end of the menu prompt (and at this point, the behavior is identical to the similar modem pool terminal server. I assume that i can't have started pppd on this end, either. attempting to duplicate the problem by hand, It doesn't pause at this line. so how do i figure out why it never sees (or respons to perhaps?) the keys: prompt? rick