On Tue, 28 Dec, 1999 à 03:23:25AM +0800, Mike Markley wrote: > On Sun, Dec 26, 1999 at 01:56:00PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > I've tried to be nice in this discussion. I'm no longer trying. > > > > > I WILL NOT CRIPPLE MY QUAKE PACKAGES TO SATISFY THE STUPIDITY INHERENT IN > > > THE LAWS OF EXACTLY TWO COUNTRIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT I KNOW OF. I > > > CONSIDER THE LAWS THEMSELVES CENSORSHIP AT THEIR CORE AND THEREFORE > > > MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE. > > > > > Is that perhaps a little clearer? > > > > I never said that someone should cripple a package. Stop assuming things > > that I don't say. And also I'm not talking about censorship. I'm just > > reminding you that some FTP-Maintainer may stand half in jail because > > they don't have the f****ng time to go through the whole debian archive > > for excluding every software that's illegal in their country. We should > > provide them with a possible solution for excluding such a software, > > because you can change a government in one day or because some people > > think they are more important. > > > > Ciao > > Christian > > > > P.S.: I wonder what you would do if you are such a maintainer who could > > be with half an leg in jail. > > My $0.02: > Yes, it's a pain for the FTP maintainer to have to figure out what packages > he can legally mirror. But you take on some responsibilities when you become > an FTP maintainer, just as when you become a package maintainer. What you're > asking would be to require all Debian developers to be legal experts > and know how legal their packages are in every location in the world. > Otherwise, any system of indicating what packages are illegal where would > fail. For all intents and purposes, such a system is impossible. If you > don't have the time or the inclination to make sure that you're in > compliance with the laws of the government under whose rule you reside, then > as much as I hate to say it, that's your problem. If you can't handle the > responsibilities of being a <fill in the blank>, then you have no business > being one. The same can be said for anything. No offense to you intended, > of course. > I would be *very* interested to hear your opinion about the existence of non-us. The U.S. are the only state to prohibit the mirroring of these packages (yes, *even* in France they can be mirrored : we can not crypt messages but that's an other silly point). So if we make an exception for one country on a bunch of packages, we could equally make an exception for two countries concerning one package.
I don't like these kind of restriction but a non-brazil and a non-germany aren't sillier than non-us. If this allows debian to be mirrored in these countries, I think it's a way to go. -- ( >- Laurent PICOULEAU -< ) /~\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /~\ | \) Linux : mettez un pingouin dans votre ordinateur ! (/ | \_|_ Seuls ceux qui ne l'utilisent pas en disent du mal. _|_/