[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Shand) wrote: > * because you can't (nicely) edit the headers while you are editing the > message you are forced to do it at the "pre-send" screen. this is okay > (though a little strange for a user used to pine/modern gui > mailers) however if you have a long To: or Cc: list it goes off the side > of the screen and you can't see all the recipients of the message without > editing that field and then scrolling through it. when you set 'set > edit_headers' on you can edit them in the message, but i found that > really weird things happened with long recipent lists (like mutt would > insert a carriage return in the middle of the Cc: header, and since > that's how smtp delimits the headers of a message it means that you end > up with all the headers below that point in the message body. ugly.
Hmm. I've never had any problems with it, but YMMV. (Not SMTP, by the way, but RFC 822.) >> probably for anyone who doesn't like pico, mutt's editor integration is >> actually much *better* than pine's. Any time I tried to get pine to use >> vi as its editor I found that I either lost features or had to run >> everything through pico anyway, simply because the fact that pine's >> designed with its own editor means that it's not designed for hooking >> cleanly into other editors. Maybe I wasn't setting it up correctly, I >> don't know, but it never seemed worth the hassle to me. > >i use vim in pine all the time and it works just great. "alt + _" and >you're in vim, do whatever reformatting you need and carry on. See, that drives me up the wall. I don't like the fact that it all goes through another editor (and one so badly written that it needs to insert a spurious blank line at the end of every message, at that, though that's a minor point :)), I don't see why I can't just use the one I like. I want to use my preferred editor for *all* my messages, and I don't want to have to contort my hands into Alt-_ first in order to do so. I used to get terminally confused when using pine+pico for mail and trn+vim for news. When "ESC {gq}" (or "ESC gqip", more or less equivalently, to rejustify a paragraph) and things like that have become automatic reflexes you tend to type rather spurious stuff into pico. Maybe I wire editor functions into my head more than most people do, though. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]