martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.27.0037 +0100]: > > > as a devoted pine user for years, and eudora for more before that, i > > > concur that mutt rocks. and you *can* (as martin points out) compose > > > and read at the same time, all of which stay happily-synchonized with > > > '$' if need be. > > > > That requires a whole lot more effort than I'd like, though. For > > example, suppose I'm replying to a thread, but some of the previous > > postings have been snipped and I want to check the parent of the > > thread. In order to do this in mutt, I'd have to open a new term and > > launch mutt, go to the correct mailbox, search through all the mail I've > > already read (can't sync with $ if I've already started composing), find > > the correct thread, and finally read the parent post. > > also a valid point. > > > However, in an environment with multiple buffers (aka emacs), I can > > seamlessly switch to the index buffer and immediately read the parent of > > the thread, and then jump right back to the compose buffer. > > well, you are doing every MUA and everything else unfair justice by > comparing it to the emacs operating system ;^> > > (noooooo, this isn't flame-bait!) > > > I don't dislike mutt. It's ok, and it gets the job done. I just > > don't think it's the holy grail of email readers, as many seem to > > believe. I can't help but think it's overrated. > > true. and if you tell me that gnus (it was gnus that you use, right) > can do > > - proper list management, incl. follow-up-to and others > - macros and keybinding > - hooks > - ldap integration > - gpg integration > - maildirs > - colors and control thereof > - proper locking and the ability to read the same mailbox locally > and over an ssh connection (e.g. pine can't do that) > - lots of random configuration options to please the playful > - full control over the headers sent > > then i'd love to give gnus a serious look...
I'm not sure what you mean by that ssh one, but gnus does do the others. It does have some drawbacks though, such as: - configuration requires elisp hacking, is rather awkward and confusing, and takes a long time to get right - no vi(m), unless viper-mode is adequate - no multitasking (the emacs session is useless while checking mail/news) - it likes to render HTML mail with w3 by default, which looks awful and is sloooooooow - occasionally locks up emacs for me It's not perfect, but it usually does what I want. There are tons of neat little built-in functions. For example, if some turd doesn't wrap their lines, just type "W w" and it's fixed. -- Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bignachos.com