On 16 Jan 2002 00:22:43 +0100
Timo --Blazko-- Boewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i am a GNOME user and mostly used sawfish and enlightenment as window
> managers so far. However, i am still quite disatisfied with them, cos
> they have little but disturbing behaviours. They often place windows out
> of the screen some bit or do not remeber them right, especially for
> non-gnome apps like mozilla. i tweaked the wm's options a lot, reset to
> defaults, reinstalled'em, but i am quite unlucky. Then i installed
> window maker, which also works not the way i like (misplacing windows, i
> cannot remove the icons that hinder me from taking applications the
> whole screen etc.).
> 
> So far, i have found only two window managers that i am completely
> content with:
> 
> -XFWM (from XFCE)
> -the KDE WM
> 
> However - although i often gave it a try - some standard KDE apps do not
> work very stable, so i always got back to GNOME.
> After a long speech, my questions:
> 
> -do you have similar experiences with sawfish, enlightenment or window
> maker?
> -how can is use the XFWM only (means: no XFCE) for GNOME? The XFCE panel
> always comes and i cannot choose XFWM from the GNOME Control Center.
> 
> Any help is very appreciated, thank you,

Not an answer. Have your tried IceWM? It comes in 2 1/2 flavors: -lite,
-gnome and -experimental (with anti-aliasing). It has KDE support, but
the menu layout is a somewhat horrible when compared to the menus for
Gnome.

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