Thanks Jeff for your time.

You got it running for me.  Had to select Sawmill in the Debian Menu before
it would work.  Sawmill I believe is the old name for Sawfish.

I still come up with large window sizes.  An example is:
Control Center open and click on the Screensaver option and the window goes
beyond the boundaries of my monitor.  I have to drag it around to get to the
ok and cancel buttons.

Yet Mozilla when I maximise the window it fits in the boundaries of my
monitor.

Question:  Is there a fix for this or am I stuck with this problem?

Cheers Al

----- Original Message -----
From: jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Alan Shrimpton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: Help with window manager


> Alan Shrimpton wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am running GNU/Linux with Gnome but something is a miss and I hope you
can
> > help.
> >
> > I don't know what is normal but the only menu I have is by right
clicking on
> > the desktop and Debian menu pops up.  Click on Apps for example and Apps
> > menu pops out.
> >
>
> it sounds like GNOME is using Windowmaker as it's default window
manager...
>
> make sure you download these:
>
> apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-admin gnome-network gnome-utils
> gnome-sound gnome-applets  gmc sawfish
>
> all on one line. that will download a slightly hefty but functional
package of
> GNOME goodies.
>
> using the gnome-control-center, you can tell GNOME which window manager to
> use...sawfish is the 'default' choice for GNOME...and you'll find that all
you
> have to do is enter the name of the window manager and the command that
starts
> it...
>
>
> >
> > I have a WMDock in the right hand corner with XTerm, WPrefs Icons and
> > another Icon with a paper clip with Main and 1 on it.
> >
> > I think I should have a menu on the bottom with a foot but don't have
it.
> >
> > My questions are:
> >
> > 1. What desktop do I have?  I think it is Gnome
>
> you are correct
>
> >
> > 2. What window manager is it?  I think it is Window Maker but Gnome
Control
> > Center under the Window Manager section has twm (current) then Window
Maker
> > under it.
>
> correct again...make sure you download the packages i mention above...use
the
> control center to manually add sawfish as your window manager. name:
sawfish
> command: sawfish and check the 'session is managed' button...
>
> >
> > 3. Recommend a way to stop these massive windows to go beyond my screen
> > boundaries?
>
> once you use sawfish, you'll be all set  ;)
>
> >
> > 4. Recommend another desktop or window manager to do what I want in
question
>
> stick with GNOME...it's pretty slick...
>
> if you want all the bells and whistles, use KDE (big...fat)
> if you want 'oldie but goodie', use FVWM or TWM
> slick, and really light, Blackbox or Fluxbox
> strange, but somehow nice, XFCE
>
> all you need to do is download these packages and edit your .xinitrc file
in
> your home directory. you can do a whole lot to make X look pretty with
that
> file.
>
> >
> > Thanks, Al
> >
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> good luck!
>
> -jeff
>
>


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