On Wed, 2002-05-08 at 23:49, Glen Lee Edwards wrote: > dman writes: > >On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 07:09:13PM -0500, Glen Lee Edwards wrote: [snip] > >debian packages are much saner too -- for example try installing > >python2 on a headless RH box *without* also installing the X server > >and X font server. > > Package dependencies are a real killer. Try installing XFree86 first. It has > dependencies, which in turn have dependency requirements, which also have > them - > 4 or 5 deep. These of course conflict with other packages you already have > installed. Some packages you need use older libraries, others newer > libraries. > So you get to chose one or the other, or run different releases on different > computers.
Yeah, that's why I dumped Mandrake... It was _impossible_ to upgrade mdk8.0 from kde 2.2.1 to 2.2.2. The RPM Hell was infuriating. Debian is _so_ easy in that regard. Twice a week, do a "apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade" and you're home free. [snip] > You'll get plenty of those. I've read through the list mail over the last > couple of days. There are noticeable differences in the language Debian users > speak. One user posted a question about finding configuration files. I > didn't > respond because of the differences. But on Red Hat you can find most > configuration files with > > $ locate .conf > > For a specific program, such as proftp: > > $ locate .conf | grep proftp > /etc/proftpd.conf.rpmnew > /etc/proftpd.conf > /etc/proftpd.conf.new > /etc/proftpd1.conf > /etc/proftpd.conf~ > /etc/proftpd1.conf~ > /home/glenlee/etc/proftpd.conf > /usr/share/doc/proftpd-1.2.5rc1/sample-configurations/complex-virtual.conf > /usr/share/doc/proftpd-1.2.5rc1/sample-configurations/PFTEST.conf.in > /usr/share/doc/proftpd-1.2.5rc1/sample-configurations/anonymous.conf > /usr/share/doc/proftpd-1.2.5rc1/sample-configurations/basic.conf > /usr/share/doc/proftpd-1.2.5rc1/sample-configurations/mod_sql.conf > /usr/share/doc/proftpd-1.2.5rc1/sample-configurations/virtual.conf > > Guess I need to delete some files! Isn't that how everyone does it? Even in Debian/woody, there are .conf files in more places than just the /etc tree. [snip] > That by itself is good enough for me to try it. I absolutely dread Red Hat > upgrades. I don't know why they can't do it so you can just upgrade > individual > packages without having to re-install the whole system. Most of the time > when I > upgrade I can guarantee that the box will be down for one to several days. > Ugh! Note, though, that even with Debian, if a package requires, say, perl5.6, and your old stable/Potato box only has perl5, you're going to download a _whole_lot_ of dependant packages. A Debian policy-that-I-think-is-a-quirk: there is the the concept of the meta-package. mail-transport-agent is an example. When, for example, you install exim, mail-transport-agent is also installed. If you want to install postfix to test it out, apt will remove exim, since the exim & postfix packages are both members of the same meta-package. It won't let me manage inetd.conf to make sure that 2 different programs are combating for the same port. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | | | | You ask us the same question every day, and we give you | | the same answer every day. Someday, we hope that you will | | believe us... | | Donald Rumsfeld, to a reporter | +------------------------------------------------------------+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]