Just because you can ping the address, it doens't mean the website is
still working.

All ping does is affirm that your local box can contact and
communicate with the remote box; it has nothing to do with www.

On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 11:05:18PM +0100, Keith Robinson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have something bizarre happening: I serve some web sites, including 
> http://www.dynamiccompany.co.uk and even though I've stopped apache 
> (apachectl stop), I can still ping the web site:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping www.dynamiccompany.co.uk
> PING dynamiccompany.co.uk (213.131.168.136): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 213.131.168.136: icmp_seq=0 ttl=245 time=27.8 ms
> 64 bytes from 213.131.168.136: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=23.0 ms
> 
> --- dynamiccompany.co.uk ping statistics ---
> 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max = 23.0/25.4/27.8 ms
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> So, I do a traceroute (from a remote box):
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute www.dynamiccompany.co.uk
> traceroute to dynamiccompany.co.uk (213.131.168.136), 30 hops max, 38 byte 
> packets
>  1  172.20.103.254 (172.20.103.254)  9.735 ms  25.230 ms  10.375 ms
>  2  rdg-cam1-a-fa00.inet.ntl.com (213.105.91.49)  10.078 ms  14.060 ms  
> 12.956 ms
>  3  bre-t2core-a-pos49.inet.ntl.com (62.253.64.165)  10.900 ms  18.956 ms  
> 50.684 ms
>  4  bre-bb-a-so-330-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.57)  12.658 ms  13.755 ms  
> 14.886 ms
>  5  gfd-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.172.150)  15.009 ms  15.474 ms  
> 25.388 ms
>  6  linx-ic-2-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.74)  18.645 ms  55.592 ms  
> 15.737 ms
>  7  linx4.newnet.co.uk (195.66.225.131)  20.428 ms  16.976 ms  27.521 ms
>  8  atm1.th.newnet.co.uk (212.87.77.21)  18.044 ms  17.804 ms  20.383 ms
>  9  atm1.cams.newnet.co.uk (212.87.77.154)  19.826 ms  27.832 ms  19.748 ms
> 10  my web server
> 
> 
> Of these, only 172.20.103.254 is unknown
> 
> whois 172.20.103.254:
> 
> IANA (IANA-BBLK-RESERVED)
>    Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
>    4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>    Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695
>    US
> 
>    Netname: IANA-BBLK-RESERVED
>    Netblock: 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
> 
>    Coordinator:
>       Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers  (IANA-ARIN)  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       (310) 823-9358
> 
>    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
> 
>    BLACKHOLE-1.IANA.ORG         192.0.32.18
>    BLACKHOLE-2.IANA.ORG         192.0.32.19
> 
>    These blocks are reserved for special purposes.
>    Please see RFC 1918 for additional information.
> 
> So, are ntl or newnet (where the box is located) caching (aggressively) or is 
> there a different issue?  Can anybody else ping www.dynamiccompany.co.uk (who 
> aren't with ntl) - this could at least remove ntl from the equation.
> 
> Any thoughts?  I'm a bit stumped.
> 
> All help greatly appreciated.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
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