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----- Original Message -----
From: "Manoj Srivastava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: this post is not off-topic


> >>"David" == David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>  >> I certainly do not understand how you come to the conclusion that
>  >> this  statement of mine is dishonest;
>
>  David> I didn't mean that perjoratively, but I did mean it
>
> How can an accusation of dishonesty be anything _but_ pejorative?
>
>  David> logically. There are two justifications for supporting many
>  David> architectures on the table:
>  David>     (1) We wanna.
>
> Yup.
>
>  David>     (2) It's for the good of the users.
>
> Nope.
>
>  David> (1) may well be true, but it's not exactly part of Debian's
"marketing
>  David> rhetoric" as embodied in the social contract.
>
> All if Debian is done just because we wanna. And, once we are
>  doing this, we do put concern for the users as an goal (an abstract
>  user, instead of any individual or group).  We do not say that we
>  shall favour any group of users because of their number; we do not
>  want to go the microsoft way.
>
> Popularity does not figure in this. And if it is a matter of
>  selecting between two sets of users, the discretion lies with those
>  doing the work. People who work on porting are doing so of their own
>  free will (I have not spent a second doing so, really, in the last
>  year or so). People who do chose to work so can't be reassigned
>  merely for the benefit of users on an architectyure that maintainer
>  does not want to work on.
>
> There is a similarity for the argument: My taxes pay for the
>  gummint. So the gummint works for me. You work foir the gummint, so
>  you work for me. So I order you, mr police man, not to write that
>  ticket for speeding.
>
> What works collectively, in the abstract, does not work in the
>  specific; and unlike an elected governement, in Debian people who are
>  not part of the project really have no franchise. Even Debian
>  leadership cannot tell a developer what to work on -- and that has
>  ever been the case.
>
>  David> (2) is just not true.
>
> Was never meant to be.
>
>  David> Now, if your justification is really only (1), then of course
>  David> this arguement is irrelevent.
>
> I am glad we concur.
>
> manoj
> --
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