--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2005 : Issue > 2749 > > Today's Topics: > Re: Request to remove Information [ Mike > McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Re: Your notice in Internet. [ > =?iso-8859-2?Q?Zygmunt_Or=B3owski?= ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Ron > Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Ron > Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Antonio > Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Ron > Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Mike > McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Mike > McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Mike > McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Mike > McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Science and Religion the same??? (wa [ Ron > Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: VSFTPD problems [ Almut > Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Science and Religion the same??? [ Mitch > Wiedemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > pre-download filtering (was Re: Spam [ Jon > Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Request to remove Information [ Mike > McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Science and Religion the same??? [ Ron > Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:58:32 -0600 > De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > John Hasler wrote: > > Seth writes: > > > >>They have a sense of national pride and feel a > part of the Indian > >>economy, thus they naturally prefer to hire their > own nationals. That's > >>illegal here... > > > > > > It is legal in the US to hire only US nationals. > > What US do you live in? > > Mike > -- > p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} > This message made from 100% recycled bits. > You have found the bank of Larn. > I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it > for you. > I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:50:41 +0100 > De: Zygmunt Or³owski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> > Objet: Re: Re: Your notice in Internet. > > > Clean energy > > The entire world is looking for a source of > clean energy. I have discovered a certain > paradox basing on which a machine called METOZ can > be built which by harnessing the gravitation of > our EARTH can produce clean energy. > The energy producing process is > demonstrated in: > http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/paradox.html > and can be very easily confirmed by an > experiment. > I am also in possession of a set of > calculations which prove that the METOZ machine: > 1/ does not consume water / 39 A5-pictures /; > 2/ does not consume compressed air / 39 A5-pictures > /; > 3/ produces energy to the outside = 4 839 kGm > during a "swing cycle" /39 A5-pictures /; > / this is a "weight cycle" = the centre of > gravity of the water in the METOZ machine sinks > ( downward movement ) / > 4/ energy is produced / released to the outside = > 44 600 kGm during the "straightening cycle" > / 39 A5-pictures /. > / this is a "pressure cycle" = the water mass > centre of gravity inside the METOZ machine > travels upwards (upward movement) / > Features: 1/; 2/; 3/; 4/, of the machine > owing to appropriate dimensions of individual > elements of the lever mechanism. > The METOZ has an even-arm lever of a 1.72 > m length. The centre of gravity of the lever > lies beneath the lever suspension point. The METOZ > is equipped with two cylinders of a 1.6 m > diameter each. Piston sidewalls do not contact > directly with cylinder walls. The lever swing > changes > between and . > Figures ( 3 x 13 x 4 = 156 ) present > temporary, consecutive action situations at > intervals of . The middle figure presents the > machine and the side figures the position of the > left and right cylinder and the mathematical > description of these situations. > In the past I have made two models, which > confirmed the legitimacy of my theoretical > assumptions concerning the METOZ machine. I have got > photographs. > I am looking for a person who would be > interested in my invention. I can offer ample > information. I look forward to hearing from you. > > > http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/three_levers.html > > 13 - 03 -2005 Gdynia, Polska > Zygmunt Or³owski > P.S. The term "gravitational paradox" use > in this description relates to the mathematical > and physical description of the action of the > METOZ-machine. > THE EARTH GRAVITATION CAN BE THE > SOURCE OF CLEAN ENERGY. > > Zygmunt Or³owski > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:11:03 -0600 > De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 13:58 -0600, Mike McCarty > wrote: > > John Hasler wrote: > > > Seth writes: > > > > > >>They have a sense of national pride and feel a > part of the Indian > > >>economy, thus they naturally prefer to hire > their own nationals. That's > > >>illegal here... > > > > > > > > > It is legal in the US to hire only US nationals. > > > > What US do you live in? > > Is "non US citizen" a protected class? Age, gender, > race and > disability are. Sexual orientation is in some > jurisdictions, and > for somethings. > > I'm pretty sure that citizenship isn't, though. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson, LA USA > PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. > > I wonder how many homeless people are victims of > childhood sexual > abuse. > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:25:06 -0600 > De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 12:22 -0600, Gnu-Raiz wrote: > > On 08:22, Wed 16 Nov 05, Steve Block wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 03:49:16AM -0500, > Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > > > >On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 09:38:37AM +0100, steef > wrote: > > > >>Steve Lamb wrote: > [snip] > > > > Their is a problem with your logic, so in order to > refuse > > genetically engineered foods we should go back to > the most > > ancient type of crops, not mess with nature. Well > that in a > > sense would cost many many lives, as we have > alreadly > > altered most crops. Doing it in a lab, or through > most of > > human kind is the same thing. They have been > altered, by > > humans for the use of humans. > > The problem with your argument is that Monsanto > isn't cross- > pollinating different strains of corn, it's splicing > bits of > "some other" genes in there. > > If there are, umm, Unintended Consequences, the GM > corn could > turn in to an aggressive hard-to-kill weed that only > produces > enough kernels to reproduce. > > Or cross-pollinate to some other plant and do > something really > weird. > > > As far as getting fat, their is a good chance that > it could > > be hardwired into our genes over million of years. > Just > > think about it, most cultures on earth still have > a hard time > > finding anthing to eat, so when people do find > food it's > > only natural to take advantage of the food source. > > One theory says that the "fat phenotype" is a useful > evolutionary > adaptation, and that the "skinny phenotype" would > have a harder > time surviving in times of low food. > > Of course, it's unprovable and has nothing to to > with how many > Cokes I drink per day... > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson, LA USA > PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. > > "One of the annoying things about believing in free > will and > individual responsibility is the difficulty of > finding somebody > to blame your problems on. And when you do find > somebody, it's > remarkable how often his picture turns up on your > driver's > license." > P.J. O'Rourke, satirist > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:45:56 -0500 > De: Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 02:36:11PM -0600, Ron > Johnson wrote: > > > Science is the new religion. A few centuries > ago, if you dared > > > to go against the church, you would end up > fried. Now, if you > > > dare to say that you give a shit about what > scientists think, > > > you > > > > You'll be elected to a School Board in Kansas. > > No much difference between science and religion, > same crap. Thus I > decline the offer. > > > What planet do you live on? > > Earth. > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:36:11 -0600 > De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 14:50 -0500, Antonio Rodriguez > wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 12:22:56PM -0600, Gnu-Raiz > wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > Well, the whole problem boils down to "eat what > you want". No problems > > with that. The problem arises if what I don't want > to eat is masked or > > passed as something else. Someone's freedom to > worship science and eat > > whatever crap scientists make should not imply > that my freedom not to > > eat it may be diminished. > > You'll just have to go back to eating corn and wheat > from much > smaller, lower-yielding crops. Botanists (those are > scientists, > right?) bred taller, healthier more high-yielding > corn, wheat and > soy, starting 140 years ago. > > > I'm not refusing it for > you, I am refusing > > someone telling me what to eat. And for sure when > crap comes out > > labels on it will not warn the dissidents. You > should eat whatever you > > want. But I also should have the same freedom. > However today is near > > impossible to find flour that is not fortified, or > milk that has no > > vitamin D added. All because some crowd of > interested parties, > > followed by science worshipers decided to make it > mandatory. Doesn't > > it bother you, that the goverment can decide that > you shall not drink > > milk without their added D? > > Not at all. > > > The only science that > has withstood time > > is mathematics, the Queen, according to Euler. The > other branches, > > come and go, their stability being directly > proportional to their > > mathematical foundation (physics). If you don't > think so, just have a > > look at whatever politicians or just common people > try to push at any > > given moment: "scientific data suggests..." is > repeated as a mantra, > > and taken to be the absolute truth, no matter how > many times life has > > proven that theories are just that, theories, that > will be denied a > > few years later, and replaced by new ones, which > that time, "for sure, > > will be right". > > No, misinterpretation of science by a stupid media > is what does > that. > > > Science is the new religion. A few centuries ago, > if you dared > > to go against the church, you would end up fried. > Now, if you > > dare to say that you give a shit about what > scientists think, > > you > > You'll be elected to a School Board in Kansas. > > What planet do you live on? > > > may not be fried physically, but you may be near > crucified in a public > > list as this. And I really give a shit about what > scientists say. But > > I care about them or someone mandating me to eat > what I don't want. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson, LA USA > PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. > > I don't want "fair and balanced". I want all of the > facts, with > enough context to make sense of it. > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:37:10 -0600 > De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > Steve Lamb wrote: > > Edward J. Shornock wrote: > > > >>Thanks to asshat US Corporations like yours, I was > out of work for 13 > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] months because my job was shipped to > India. > > > > > > Yes, because making money is such a crime in a > free market society. So > > much so that when corporations do it it's bad but > when individuals do it, it's > > good. > > > > Maybe if you started barking up the right tree > there'd be some progress. > > Here's a hint; *why* are corporations often > shipping jobs overseas? Don't say > > "cheap labor" and leave it at that. > > > > Well, it's the reason, but not the root cause. IMO, > the root cause > is that the entire US economy has been jacked up by > minimum wage > laws. > > Not too long ago I saw a special done on PBS about > "health care > costs" or sth like that. Especially under view were > the attempts > by car manufacturers to reduce "health care > benefits" for retirees. > One retiree they interviewed was very angry. It > turns out that > for 30 years or so he "started" spark plugs into the > holes in the > block. It seems that robots don't have the necessary > tactile > feedback yet to be able to do this. They can torque > them in, but > not start them. When he retired, his yearly wage > amounted to > $60,000 USD per year. He felt very entitled to that > wage, and also to > his retirement benefits. IMO, that's about $40,000 > more than it should > be. > > ISTM, that our entire economy has been jacked up > about $40,000 per > year, to accomodate. But when countries w/o minimum > wage laws which > are similar in size and scope to ours compete openly > with us, we > just can't do it. I used to make just over $100,000 > USD per year > in telecom. Subtract $40,000 USD from that, and it's > similar to > a senior engineer in India. Which is where my job > is, now. > > So, we either need to lobby for minimum wage laws in > other countries > (not a good idea, IMO) or repeal our own laws (far > better, I think). > > Mike > -- > p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} > This message made from 100% recycled bits. > You have found the bank of Larn. > I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it > for you. > I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:40:41 -0600 > De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > Steve Lamb wrote: > > Robert Waldner wrote: > > > >>Because with a "globalized" capitalism it's an > arms race to the bottom: > >> whoever has the lowest wages/taxes, the laxest > environment laws etc. wins. > > > > > > Gotta love people who whine about > "gobalization" using the internet; the > > shining beacon of that concept. > > "Globalization" is a nebulous and many faceted term. > It means > different things in different contexts. > > > > > So what exactly is wrong with the lowest > wages/taxes? C'mon, think it > > through to the end. > > Nothing. Except that we have an artificially jacked > up economy > due, in part, to minimum wage laws, and stron > unions. > > > Let's see, corporations want to make as much > money as possible. Yet every > > person who is bitching about exported jobs is > really bitching about what.... > > > > ...oh yeah, how the corporation is preventing > *them* from making as much > > money as possible. Demonizing the very behavior > they're engaged in. That's > > smart. > > You might also think about how other countries take > tax money re-labeled "Foreign Aid" from us in the > USA, > then subsidize their own industries so they can sell > "cheaper" items than we can make on our own. Japan > is famous for that. > > Mike > -- > p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} > This message made from 100% recycled bits. > You have found the bank of Larn. > I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it > for you. > I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:46:19 -0600 > De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: Clive Menzies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > Clive Menzies wrote: > > On (14/11/05 17:36), privacy.at Anonymous Remailer > wrote: > > > >>>>Regardless, please come back in a few months and > request its removal > >>>>again. I'd love to see that original email [2] > climb higher in > >>>>Google's results than the current #3 spot it > holds now when searching > >>>>for your name. ;) > >>> > >>>It's at the number 1 spot at the moment :D. > >>> > >>>http://www.google.com/search?q=Weissgerber,+Tom+L > >> > >>Let's keep it there with lots of links! > >>Edit your web pages, everyone.... > >> > > > > Indulging in schadenfreude is one thing; > deliberately exacerbating the > > guy's misfortune is probably more than he > deserves. > > <<Schadenfreude>> implies a certain maliciousness, I > think. > > Mike > -- > p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} > This message made from 100% recycled bits. > You have found the bank of Larn. > I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it > for you. > I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:48:09 -0600 > De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Clive Menzies wrote: > > > >> > >> Indulging in schadenfreude is one thing; > deliberately exacerbating the > >> guy's misfortune is probably more than he > deserves. > >> > >> OK he's made a relatively common mistake and then > compounded it with the > >> the removal request; if Tom's following this > thread, he'll be suffering > >> anyway. > >> > >> I don't see the mileage in being vindictive. > >> > > > > But there is more here than meets the eye: good > ol' Tom opened up a can > > of worms that runs pretty deep, apparently... > > > > H > > There exists quite a lot of very deep resentment > over outsourcing on the > part of engineers in these USA. > > Mike > -- > p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} > This message made from 100% recycled bits. > You have found the bank of Larn. > I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it > for you. > I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:57:42 -0600 > De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Science and Religion the same??? (was Re: > Request to remove > Information) > > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 15:45 -0500, Antonio Rodriguez > wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 02:36:11PM -0600, Ron > Johnson wrote: > > > > Science is the new religion. A few centuries > ago, if you dared > > > > to go against the church, you would end up > fried. Now, if you > > > > dare to say that you give a shit about what > scientists think, > > > > you > > > > > > You'll be elected to a School Board in Kansas. > > > > No much difference between science and religion, > same crap. Thus I > > decline the offer. > > Ummmm. Hmmmm. Hmmm, again. From gcide > > $ dict religion > 1. The outward act or form by which men indicate > their > recognition of the existence of a god or of > gods having > power over their destiny, to whom obedience, > service, and > honor are due; the feeling or expression of > human love, > fear, or awe of some superhuman and overruling > power, > whether by profession of belief, by observance > of rites > and ceremonies, or by the conduct of life; a > system of > faith and worship; a manifestation of piety; > as, ethical > religions; monotheistic religions; natural > religion; > revealed religion; the religion of the Jews; > the religion > of idol worshipers. > [1913 Webster] > > $ dict science > 2. Accumulated and established knowledge, which > has been > systematized and formulated with reference to > the > discovery of general truths or the operation of > general > laws; knowledge classified and made available > in work, > life, or the search for truth; comprehensive, > profound, or > philosophical knowledge. > [1913 Webster] > > Sooooo, no. Science and Religion are *not* the > same. > > You are confusion "Science" with "worship of > science" > > > > What planet do you live on? > > > > Earth. > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson, LA USA > PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. > > "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best > forms [of > government] those entrusted with power have, in > time, and by slow > operations, perverted it into tyranny." > Thomas Jefferson > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:05:00 +0100 > De: Almut Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: VSFTPD problems > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 07:55:08PM +0000, Adam Hardy > wrote: > > Rudi Starcevic on 16/11/05 07:52, wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > >Just can't get vsftpd to work? > > > > > >apt-get install vsftpd always used to work .... > > > > > >This is my error: > > > > > >*500 **OOPS*: *cap_set_proc* > > > > > > > > >[quote] > > >On Linux systems, if capability support was > disabled in the kernel or > > > > > >built as a module and not loaded, vsftpd will > fail to run. You'll see > > >this error message: > > > *500 **OOPS*: *cap_set_proc* > > >Build and load the appropriate kernel module to > continue. > > > > > >[/quote] > > > > > >What is the 'appropriate kernel module to > continue' ?? > > > > I've been there and done that, but I looked up my > notes and > > unfortunately this is all I wrote down: > > > > > > "Just solved a problem with kernel 2.6.11 where I > had opted to have a > > module capability not loaded at boot time (dunno > why) but it came up > > with the weird error cap_set_proc and > vsf_sysutil_recv_peek" > > > > I think googling the mail archives or just the > whole net should turn up > > the offending module. > > the module is called "capability", i.e. "modprobe > capability" should do > the trick... > > (For anyone interested, it's about providing > facilities to segment > the almighty power of the superuser into a more > fine-grained set of > discrete capabilities (i.e. privileges), e.g. for > running daemons. > The userland side of it is handled by libcap...) > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:05:03 -0500 > De: Mitch Wiedemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Science and Religion the same??? (was Re: > Request to remove Information) > > Could you all argue about this amongst yourselves? > You're spamming the > rest of the *debian-user* list. > > Remember Debian? It's a computer operating system. > > -- > > Mitch Wiedemann > Webmaster - Ithaca Free Software Association > http://ithacafreesoftware.org > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:11:30 +0000 > De: Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: pre-download filtering (was Re: Spamassassin > not doing blacklist lookups) > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 07:58:07PM +0000, Adam Hardy > wrote: > > sorry if this is a dumb question, but your email > implies spam-assassin > > does DNS look-ups to filter out spam - which is > not what I thought > > after giving spam assassin the once-over > check-out. Is it so? What > > level of effectiveness does it have? > > > > And can it actually filter your pop3 server's > inbox before download? > > Not sure about spamassassin in general, but most > static rule-based > filters have some rules which are applied to the > headers, and some which > are applied to the body. Presumably, in order for > there to be an > advantage in filtering before download, you don't > want the entire > message fetched and scanned locally, so the filter > must be operating on > either just the headers, or a preset number of lines > of body too[1]. > > So, the accuracy of such a filter would be entirely > limited to those > rules which were applicable to the headers only, > say[2]. Is that really > good enough? > > > [1] I believe it would have to be a line-based > cut-off, due to POP3 > protocol restrictions. > > [2] These include many of the rules mentioned in > this thread > (RECV_IN_SOMERBL, SUBJECT_VIAGRA or whatever) > > -- > Jon Dowland > http://jon.dowland.name/ > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:06:03 -0600 > De: Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Request to remove Information > > Carl Fink wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 09:35:15AM -0500, Mitch > Wiedemann wrote: > > > >>I'd like to make a motion that we discontinue this > very OT thread. > > > > > > Second. > > You don't have to vote, nor do you have to make > requests. > Just use the delete key. I use a threaded reader, so > I > can delete whole threads. It also has the ability to > look for key words in the subject, to, body, etc. > and *automatically* delete mail messages. > > I suggest you investigate these capabilities which > may > be present in your mailer. > > Mike > -- > p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} > This message made from 100% recycled bits. > You have found the bank of Larn. > I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it > for you. > I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! > > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:12:54 -0600 > De: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Objet: Re: Science and Religion the same??? (was Re: > Request to > remove Information) > > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 16:05 -0500, Mitch Wiedemann > wrote: > > Could you all argue about this amongst yourselves? > You're spamming the > > rest of the *debian-user* list. > > We are users of Debian. We are on the debian-user > mailing list. > What's the problem? > > I get your point, though. > > > Remember Debian? It's a computer operating > system. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson, LA USA > PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. > > Liberals are funny... hardcore against the death > penalty, except > for the "crime" of being conceived at an > inconvenient time. >
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