On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:09:57AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > hi ya hendrik > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I've never been able fo figure out what webmin does in sufficient > > detail to enable me to use it. > > i know webmin is broken in terms of creating the correct > config files ... ( or good enuff for some .. but not > the silly boat i want ) > > > that link to documentation -- documentation that fills you > > into the bigger picture, rather that just the > > out-of-context microprose most help systems > > provide. > > tough to do
I know. > > > that enable you to learn what's going on under the hood > > without forcing you to. > > tough to teach by docs... > - teaching by example is okay i suppose > > - "teaching what's under the hood" will take decades even > if you're a speed reader and a genious with iq over 120 I know. Writing that kind of documentation is hard. It takes many of the same skills as are needed for writing the code, and others as well. Even if you're a speed reader, speed writer, and a genius. And after it's ween written, it's hard to navigate through a world of web pages and other stuff to find the bit you need. > > > that tell you which configuration files they are going > > to modify/create/delete and why > > that's where most gui tools screw up big time > in modifying/merging/updating old and new changes > along with user modified changes > > > that read your configuration files and explain them to you. > > bedtime story :-) > > the kernel config gui ain't too bad .. ( simple ) > - it tells yo a little about the option > - it tells you what to select if you donno > - it talls you it can break things if you donno what > you're doing I know. The kernel config gui is one of the bright lights in a bleak landscape. -- hendrik > > - the kernel gui sucks ... if you tell it to > skip isdn or flash mem stuff... it insists on popping up > all the isdn stuff just to make you click away > > ( it needs to be context sensitve ) > > > Of course that would all be easier if there were to be > > a uniform file format for configuration files. And that > > might be possible if there were a uniform semantics. > > it looks like rss, css, and html style is taking over > and its not much better than ole fashin man pages > > > I don't think anyone has yet formulated a workable semantic > > framework for configuration. Or have I missed something important? > > nope ... its on the horizon Is it even that close? > > c ya > alvin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]