On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 12:12:12PM -0700, Charles wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrei Popescu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:48 AM > Subject: Re: New install and newbie questions > > > >On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:00:32 -0700 > >"Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > These are present. > > > > >With this you can keep your system up to date if you regularly do 'apt-get > >update' 'apt-get upgrade' > > > >>Should this update very few packages if the download is one week old? > > > >What download? The CD's? Do you have r0 or r1 CD's? If you have r1 than > >the update should be minimal. > > Answers the question. Sarge r1 is identified as the most recent stable > release, and that's what took all weekend to download. I also did my first > reinstall and watchd it closely. The install process slipstreamed the > updates through what was at that point a live DSL network connection. > There should be very few updates to download. For the future: you can (often) just use the netinstall CD (about 100M download) and update from the net thereafter. Stable gets regular-ish updates: each of a few 10's of megabytes. > > > >[snip] > > > >>I'm also assuming the separation between end user and administrator is > >>enforced by the separation between GUI and CLI. > > > >No. Any user (in the default install) can press Ctrl-Alt-F1(-F6) to login > >at the console. Or open an xterm, which is almost the same. Root can run X > >as well. And there are many GUI tools to configure your system, that can > >be started/used by any user who has the root password. This is true for > >most if not all distros. > I think the point is that you can have a GUI - usually KDE for me - _AND_ have five or six virtual terminals/consoles on VT1 -6 _AND_ have multiple users logged in at the same time via SSH ... it's a true multi-user operating system if you want it to be.
> But the EU is accustomed and expecting a GUI. Without it, s/he needs > further education or training after getting under the hood. > apt-get install x-window-system [kde kdm OR gnome gdm] and you're done. > > > >>This will be fun. If I can reproduce/document a successful installation, > >>a > >>fair number of GUI's for the end user are available, the installation and > >>desktop is stable, and I have direct access to a broad library of > >>software > >>that can be installed on the fly, then I have a distribution of Linux I > >>can > >>work with. Mandrake has been averaging about one stable install each > >>three > >>major versions, and that's the closest I come to a desktop with lots of > >>different GUI's. > > > >The 'stable' release is rock solid. It's the recommended release for > >production systems > > Which is what I need at this point - stability. > Debian Stable is deliberately kept _very_ stable and very few changes are countenanced. For some people, this pace of change is too slow - at your option, you can run testing (current code name Etch) or unstable (Sid). Sid is potentially no less stable than a released Stable - but is subject to significant change and churn so is "unstable" in terms of change. "Testing" is the release candidate for the next release: change is slightly slower. Both are equally usable - although your mileage may vary :) Andy > . > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
