On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 04:58 +1000, Arafangion wrote: > Owen Heisler wrote: > > <snip> > > This all seems to be about questions in the installer, but all the > > installer really does (at least for me) is set up a minimal Debian > > system. I think the tasksel that the installer uses (that's it, right?) > > is so simple that it is useless, but I don't want to use it anyway. I > > will use my preferred method of package management to install other junk > > later. For the newbie, this would be aptitude ran from base-config. > > > > My opinion is that the installer should be kept simple, excluding > > package selection. The installer sets up a minimal system, and other > > packages are added later using other software. /This/ software can be > > set up to be newbie-friendly. Their are way too many options for > > packages for any of it to be incorporated into the installer. > > What is the "Minimal System"? > When I install Debian, I tend to install just as little as I can, then > back out of hte install as soon as I can - this, to me, is the ideal > inital install of Debian - though I do tend to setup servers.
I mean that the Debian installer, I think, should install only what is /necessary/ for a complete system. This includes all the "important" and "essential" packages but excludes stuff like ppp and (especially) gnome or kde. > Other people feel that the _everything_ should be installed (Which, to > their annoyance, just isn't possible on Debian), and between these two > extremes, we have all kinds of middle grounds. > > Some are very happy with the "Minimal" system that Ubuntu setups, others > like tasksel, - the point I'm making is that what is "Minimal" is very > hard to get more than two people to agree on. Yeah, and I guess it doesn't really matter that much. Just give me a running Debian system that uses less space than Windows XP and I'll add and remove as I desire. > Personally, I love the minimal installation of Debian for servers - but > lately I've prefered the "minimal" installation of Ubuntu for my > desktops - the needs are different. (Having said that, I'm returning to > Debian - I'm just too used to it.) I'm not as "used to" Debian as I am Fedora, but I probably don't really need to give you reasons for why I choose Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
