On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:31:53 -0400 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:12:48AM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote: > > > > We in Linux heavily use the command-line. > > So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome > > interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE) > > and not even any immediate panel options for these terminals. > > > > Gnome's "Add to Panel" includes a trashcan and a file-manager just > > like Microsoft, but not one of Unix's foundations -- a text > > terminal. I eventually kludged a gnome-terminal icon onto the Gnome > > panel. Or I can > > Applications -> Accessories --> Terminal > > but this should not be the primary approach to command-line entries. > > > > Yes, once I have a gnome-terminal running, future logins re-deploy > > it, and that's actually an improvement to making inclusions in > > ~/.xsession (although Gnome drops some applications from later > > logins as Sun did 10 years ago). > > > > THE XTERM (or its equivalent) SHOULD BE IN MY FACE > > THE VERY FIRST TIME I LOGIN, > > requiring at most a single obvious mouse click. > > > > > Well, it is well known that the target audience of GNOME is end user > newbies or windows transplants. That said, those types of people > likely don't know about the command line. If they do, they are likely > frightened by it. So, your options are: > > * Use a desktop environment which targets power users > * Don't use a desktop environment at all > * Find the shortcut the first time and then place it where you want > it > * Use Alt-F1 to bring up a "run" dialog and type gnome-terminal since this seems a nit pick session , I believe to bring up the run dialog box is <alt+F2>. Also imho Debian is not for a newbie or even less so a windows convert, hence Ubuntu. I noticed that the selection 'desktop' in tasksel now only installs a Gnome Desktop, no KDE , which is guaranteed to confuse Windows converts.One persons rhyme is another persons reason. -- Greg Madden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]