Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 07:08:53PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > >> sudo fdformat -n /dev/.static/dev/fd0u1440 >> > > I have to wonder how you came up with that, vs reading the man page for > fdformat(8).
Because the man page for fdformat only mentions the /dev/fd* paths, but such paths do not exist on either of my two Sid boxes running 2.16 kernel. The problem was not one of failing to autodetect the floppy parameters, which is what the man page mentions (see below); the problem was that the path was not found. At one point something printed on the screen (via dmesg? I don't remember) which indicated a /dev/.static directory in relation to udev, so I went a'hunting and found these device files there. > That tells you to use setfdprm(8) to set the parameters of the > generic device before trying to use it. > Also, everything I was able to find via Google and a specific instruction on this list mentioned using "fdformat -n ...fd0u1440" or "...fd0H1440". Whereas the man page for fdformat does indeed mention using setfdprm, it says it in this geekspeak, which is typical of Linux documentation: > The generic floppy devices, /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd1, will fail to work > with fdformat when a non-standard format is being used, or if > the for- > mat has not been autodetected earlier. In this case, use > setfdprm(8) > to load the disk parameters. If I study on this hard enough, I can eventually make sense of it, but it's kind of like reading the King James version of the Bible: it may be majestic and grand and eventually understandable, but for most "non-professional" readers, they just basically go "Huh?" And the man page for setfdprm? Ag! I *never* would have figured out from that man page that setfdprm was of any value to me. Never. Ever. > Further, why wouldn't you just use superformat(1)? Because I have never heard of it before. > It usually does a MUCH > better job with marginal media than fdformat(8) does, and it'll invoke > mformat for you when it's done. > Reading the manpage for superformat, again, I'm stunned at how little knowledge I would have gleaned from this vast repository of information about the utility, and never would have figured out that it does better with marginal media than fdformat does if you hadn't mentioned it. I'll go try it here in a sec ("No! No more "sec"s! I'm sick and tired of "sec"s!" (Read it out loud if you have to in order to get the joke.)) === I know you didn't intend it, but your phrases "how did you come up with that" and "why wouldn't you use foo" felt like "Gee, you're stupid for doing things that way" phrases to me, and being as this is morning and I'm not a morning person, that put me into defensive mode such that I then irrationally struck out at Linux documentation. Sorry for my hot reaction. (How do you do a sheepish smiley?) On the other hand, you've provided some helpful information here to which I was previously not privy. Thanks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully <http://kentwest.blogspot.com> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]