On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 06:37:01PM EST, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 06:28:05PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > > > > Pardon my ignorance .. I do my best to stay away from gui apps .. > > > > Unfortunately, some things flat out require a GUI.
Unfortunately? :-) > > > And I don't use sudo either. > > > > > > Mind you, I have thought about it and I have come with the conclusion > > > that it is just not worth the trouble setting up sudo in a desktop > > > context. > > > > That depends. If you are the only user of the system and will be the > only one requiring root acces, then that is fine. That's what I meant. I am aware of the value of sudo when multiple administrators are involved. > > > I'll stick with plain /bin/su. > > > > However, in a situation with multiple admins it is nice to have the > logging of sudo so that you know who did what/when. yes .. see above. otherwise it sounds like unnecessary overhead .. making things a bit more complicated .. and therefore a little less secure. > > > As Paul J. -- I think -- indicated in another post .. either the gui app > > > has been designed (and tested .. audited .. etc.) to run in privileged > > > mode (and in this case it should take care of escalating your privileges > > > when necessary and ask you for the root password if relevant) .. or it > > > has not. > > > > > > If it has NOT been designed to run privileged, then there is NO reason > > > that I can think of why you should EVER want to escalate your privileges > > > -- except possibly when testing something .. such as when you need to > > > verify a hunch that a given application does not work correctly because > > > you do not have proper access to a resource .. > > > > Except that many apps are GUI apps and expect that you will already have > elevated priviledges when you run them. The Oracle installer and the > CrossOver Office configuration tool are two that come to mind right off > the top of my head. Not familiar with either. I forget what's it called .. "synapsis" or something .. ? but another one that comes to mind is the GUI front-end to apt .. Wouldn't that need to run privileged for some of its functionalities (eg. install/remove software) .. ? How's stuff like that supposed to work in a "strict" proof of concept GUI environment with no *term available -- ie. all you are allowed is an icon on your desktop and possibly an entry in your gnome/kde menus? Sounds like such GUI install/config tools would need to to be able prompt the user for root's password .. or whatever group password might be necessary.. Ah .. I guess I'll stick with my shell prompt.. all this gooey stuff is way too complex for me. Thanks. cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]