> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:11:46 +0100 > Robert Epprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[about problems setting up Kmail to use smtp on google mail accounts] This is just to report to anybody following this thread: My Kmail is working now with smtp on google mail. Unfortunately I have no idea why it didn't work before and does now. I set it up on 5 different accounts, one of them was working immediately on the others I had to fiddle around with different settings (see below) try again and again and then sooner or later (in most cases it was later) it started working. The frustrating thing is, that I never saw an error message and have no idea if I did something wrong or if there's a bug somewhere, which I should report... Each account behaved differently (!) and I was not able to find a setup, that would just work. I think this is a big problem with this type of GUI applications: If it does *not* work, how do you find out what's wrong? Not even starting Kmail from a terminal provided any diagnostic error messages. This does not feel like Linux to set it up, but like another well known OS ;-) Why can't a GUI program provide the the possibility to give (meaningful) error messages to the user who wants to see it? If somebody is struggling with the same issue (google tells me I'm not the only one to do so) these are the parameters I fiddled with. (Some of them *might* have an influence, but I was not able to find out) * Changing 'googlemail' to 'gmail' in smtp and pop host names. * Omitting the '@gmail' or '@googlemail' part of the username (contrary of what Google tells you to do on http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287&topic=1556) * Setting smtp port to 465 (like Google tells you) but then 'check servers possibilities' (or similar) from Kmail settings, which will set the port back to 25. Leave it there. * Switching 'check mail on startup' on (then leave Kmail, start and leave again) and set it back to 'off' * Do not allow 8-bit transfer but use QP (my test messages had german umlauts in them) * It looks to me as if Google passwords had problems with some signs other then characters and chiffres (if this is true, it's quite a problem IMHO) * Even the language settings of the KDE desktop might have had some influence... I'm very sorry that I cannot give better information and hope somebody will be able to do so... BTW: my Kmail users do not want to enter the password every time they want to get or send mail. (This also rules out Kwallet, so I do not use it, which might be wrong...) Given the fact that they do not care too much about security they want Kmail to store the password. This worked on one account, but the others bothered the users again and again asking for passwords. It has stopped to do so on three accounts, but not on the others (no idea why). diffing the ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc does not show anything that seams relevant. Another very strange issue... Thanks to everybody who tried to help me, Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
