> > On 23.02.07 19:15, David Hart wrote: > > > AFAIU no, but that's the way I do it with postfix. Both my primary > > > and secondary MXs do RBL checks and stuff like recipient validation > > > and then make the accept/reject decision after the RCPT TO: but before > > > the DATA. > > > > > > Greg Folkert said that he uses SA-Exim (which calls spamassassin) > > > to do scans at smtp time but without any online checks. I don't see > > > how you can do this without receiving the bulk of the email.
> On Sat 2007-02-24 23:24:15 +0100 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > the advantage of smtp time rejection is, you will just reject the data with > > error and you don't have to do anything with it - the rest is up to sender. On 26.02.07 14:04, David Hart wrote: > Re-read the three paragraphs of mine that you quoted above (the first > of which you copied and pasted from an earlier email). No, I didn't copy/paste anything - I only quoted the email as it came to me (and hopefully removed all useless sections and kept only those usefull). > I am NOT asking about the advantages of smtp time rejection. > The second of my paragraphs above make it quite clear that I do that > myself on my own MXs but that I do it BEFORE receiving the message DATA. actually, there is a small difference between "receiving the message" and "receiving the message data", and maybe this is the reason why most people don't understand each other when talking about this issue. > I AM asking how you can scan an email through spamassassin without > receiving the bulk of the email and how, when the scanning is turned > off, it leads to a quadrupling of bandwidth used. I don't think that's quadrupling, but Yes, I agree this will cause MORE data sent across the net, and Yes, I agree that you must accept at least a part of the message data to verify if it's spam (the same about viruses). > > Especially if you would bounce the e-mail, you'll win this way... > > You should not bounce SPAM once you have accepted it for delivery. And that is, why you win when you'll reject the spam instead of bouncing it. > SPAMMERS USE BOGUS RETURN ADDRESSES. If you do, YOU become part of > the problem and the likely outcome is that either some innocent third > party finds it in her inbox (which may well have been flooded with > bounces from elsewhere) or your mail queue fills up with MAILER-DAEMON > messages that keep retrying until they time out several days later. > You may even end up bouncing the spam to yourself, but then, that IS > entirely your own problem. You accused me of not reading your message, but I have the feeling now you didn't read mine... -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Quantum mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]