Hello Michael

I liked the description of your network, was very clear.
So those called router-switch maybe be a router that comes with a
switch inside to do what you've done.

Jordi

On 1 mar, 19:10, "Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 08:26 -0800, Jordi wrote:
> > I hear most people around me using all those modem/router as
> > synonims.
>
> That's probably because sometime they are both.  My modem (the one
> supplied to me by my ISP) is also a router.  It's an Actiontec GT701-WG,
> "DSL Modem with Wireless Gateway."  Sometimes an ISP sends you a modem
> that is just a modem and nothing more.
>
>
>
> > It is not my fault, I really try to understand but in the pc shops
> > they seem not to know really the difference.
>
> > I know there are many differences. But I will thank if anyone can give
> > me a simple explanation on this.
> > I saw this searching: (text from a forum)
> > ---
> > HUB: plug some computers into this, and all traffic is shared.  In
> > other words, if computer 1 talks to computer 3, computer 2 will also
> > hear what computer 1 said.  Usually computer 2 just discards traffic
> > not meant for it, but it does tend to burden your network.
>
> > SWITCH: if computer 1 talks to computer 3, computer 2 hears nothing.
> > On high-traffic networks, this means downloads & uploads go a little
> > faster for everyone.  On low-traffic networks (home networks) users
> > typically don't notice a difference.
>
> I bought one of these because my modem/router has has only one ethernet
> port.  I wanted to connect two computers to the internet, and I didn't
> want to use wireless and I didn't want to use one of my machines as a
> gateway for the other.  The switch sits between my modem/router and each
> computer -- that is, the ethernet for each computer is connected to the
> switch, and the ethernet for the switch is connected to the
> modem/router.  I could have bought a hub instead of a switch, but
> there's very little price difference and a switch seemed like the better
> buy.  In this way, each computer can reach the internet independently of
> the other through my ISP assigned IP address, and each computer has it's
> own internal IP address (192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3), so I can transfer
> files between them easily.
>
> > ROUTER: plug some computers into this, and it'll use port forwarding,
> > IP masquerading, and NAT to allow your computers to share an IP
> > address
> > and connect to the internet.  Cheap routers use HUB technology, good
> > routers use SWITCH technology.
>
> If my modem had been "just a modem" and not a modem/router, I would have
> bought a router instead of a switch, and done the same thing I'm doing
> now.
>
> > A "bridge" is a box to regenerate signals on a coax in coax-networks.
> > As a fact every 500 meters, a new bridge needed to be placed in order
> > to maintain a good signal.
>
> I'm not sure why you would need one of these?
>
>
>
> > The most similar to mine is router, as it uses port forwading, and pcs
> > share the ip to enter internet. Maybe the quality of my router is not
> > like a router-switch, and mostly a router with hubs, so is virtually
> > insecure. Do you mean this?
>
> > And in speedtouch 530v6 FAQ it says:
> > ---
> > Can I configure my router as a bridged ethernet connection?
>
> >     * Yes this is possible. Click on SpeedTouch -> setup at the bottom
> > of the SpeedTouch Web interface. This will launch the embedded setup
> > wizard. You can choose for setting up your router as a bridge there
> > during setup in the first screen.
> > ------
> > So seems they call it "router" that can be configured as "bridge" or
> > not.
>
> > It seems not only me, also the people in Thomson confuse all those
> > concepts.
>
> I think maybe you are confusing a "bridge" with "bridged mode."  Many
> (most? all?) routers can be configured to operate in "bridged mode" if
> you want or need that.  Otherwise, they operate in "router mode."  In
> bridged mode, you would need a PPPoE (or PPPoA) client on your machine
> to login in order to connect.  In router mode, your router is the bridge
> between you and your ISP.
>
> --
> Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA
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> of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to
> dream." --S. Jackson
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