On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 02:34:17PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
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> Michael Pobega wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:14:02PM +0800, Tim Yang wrote:
> >> I agree it could be good for secuirity, but it was
> >> not implemented before.
> >> Every distribution I used such as Fedora, SUSE,
> >> and even sarge installed ssh server
> >> by default and people using the service never have
> >> to think about how to do when the service vanished.
> >> Now it is changed so there might be some consequences
> >> needing attention.
> >>
> >> Tim Yang
> >>
> > 
> > Well it's easy to install it anyway. Takes 10 seconds.
> > 
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> >> aptitute search ssh | grep server
> > p   openssh-server                  - Secure shell server
> > v   ssh-server
> > 
> > 
> 
> slight spelling mistake there.  You mean aptitude.
> 
> apt-cache search server yields a bit more, actually far too much to list
> here and still have a readable message but even grepping it yields more
> than that:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search server | grep ssh
> aolserver4-nssha1 - AOLserver4 module: performs SHA1 hashes
> denyhosts - an utility to help sys admins thwart ssh hackers
> jta - Java telnet/ssh applet
> libganymed-ssh2-java - pure Java implementation of the SSH-2 protocol
> openssh-server - Secure shell server, an rshd replacement
> scanssh - get SSH server versions for an entire network
> ssh - Secure shell client and server (transitional package)
> ssh-krb5 - Secure shell client and server (transitional package)
> sshfs - filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol
> sshm - A command-line tool to manage your ssh servers
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> Needless to say, it isn't hard to find, but one needs to know to look
> for it.  I agree that it shouldn't be installed by default, and people
> who try to ssh to the machine will figure out quickly that there is no
> ssh server present, and can easily remedy the situation, but the
> administrator must have some knowledge of how to search for package.
> 
> I suppose one should have some idea how to network administration before
> setting up a network server in the first place, and it does help to read
> the documentation.
> 
> Joe
> 

Yes yes, I am using TCSH as a shell so it automatically corrected me
and I didn't notice it.

And I cut down the results because there was no need to show /all/ of
the packages, but yeah, the overall point is still proven. It isn't
hard at all to install it, just a quick apt-get away.


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