On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 07:00:06AM EDT, Max Hyre wrote:
> cga2000 wrote:
> > About 20 miles East of the city.
> 
>    Well, more like zero (Queens and Brooklyn are part of both the city
> and the Island, unless you're talking like the locals, to whom The City
> is Manhattan, and the rest is referred to by borough name) to 120 miles
> east.  There's a reason they call it _Long_ Island.  :-)

I was more thinking of where I'm at.. Western Suffolk ..

On the other hand Queens & Kings -- aka Brooklyn, belong to that five
boroughs entity .. and from and administrative standpoint Long Island
is limited to Nassay & Suffolk.

So although the _Island_ itself is less than a mile east of Manhattan,
what's usually regarded as long Island starts .. what .. maybe ten miles
further east..?

> > I guess you were referring to a New York City accent like in the old
> > gangster movies?  Like Jimmy Cagney, maybe?
> 
>    It ain't just the old movies---

I said old because those black and white movies spoke a very different
brand of English than the ones they began making in the 70's with all
those eye-talian types .. 

> that accent is alive and well and living in Queens.  How Queens and
> Brooklyn accents can be so different (they're adjacent on the Island)
> is beyond me.

I think one difference is that Brooklyn was an independent city for many
years before becoming part of the five boroughs and so it had its own
identity, town hall .. etc. quite separate from NYC .. whereas Queens
was only just a collection of suburbs from the start. 

Don't know if this has anything to do with Brooklyn-ese being so
different, though.

> -- 
>           Best wishes,
> 
>                Max Hyre (from New Haven, Connecticut, where The City
>                         is indeed Manhattan)

Thanks,
cga



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