-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mirko Scurk wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> David Baron wrote: >>> Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had >>> anything to >>> do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? >>> >>> The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell >>> (ok U >>> is a Linux distro and Dell makes computers, but...) Endless threads >>> filling >>> my mailbox with irrelevance. >>> >>> Its fun to touch these things a bit but I think there are limits :-) >>> >>> >> I agree and disagree at the same time. Some of this off-topic stuff is >> quite educational, and sometimes quite funny. >> >> You don't have to read it you know. You see an off-topic thread, just >> delete the whole thread. Of course, you may have a really slow internet >> connection and it takes a while for all the "junk" to come in. In that >> case I pity you. >> >> I think Tyler is right, there should be another list for "debian-help" >> but I am afraid if that list separates from this one, then a lot of >> people that could really help people, will not subscribe to it. >> >> Think of this like an office, there is business going on, but there is >> also a lot of talk by the water-cooler. >> >> Joe > > Think that some of the serious gurus aren't with us anymore. I'm not > reading every post but it seems to me that many cries for help are being > unanswered. Not quite apeeling to newbies as they are being confused with > such broadness of themes. >
Putting this back on the list where it belongs. That may be true, but the few that do respond know far more than we noob's do. It could be that many of them are working on getting Etch out the door, and don't have time to muddle with this list. Especially with the large amount of OT stuff on it. It could also be that people don't ask the right kind of questions that interest the guru's. If you've never read the "How To Ask Proper Questions", from Eric S. Raymond, then you might want to. That should be required reading by everyone before they ask a question. It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. Still, most people could find the answers they are looking for with a simple search. The problem is some people don't know how to use the search engines very good. Learning to use google, or one of the other search engines will help you far greater than this list will, not to put down the list, but think of it this way. If you're having a problem, chances are someone else had the same problem, and there is already information on the Internet that pertains to the problem. Your job is to find it. If you can't use a search engine, then it makes it hard to find. I offer help on this list whenever I can, but I can only tackle the problems that I have some knowledge of, but I still think pointing someone to a website is the quickest way to solve a problem, and how do I find those websites? Google. Joe Nevertheless, this list is a good source of information, and there are other places as well. - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGEjCZiXBCVWpc5J4RAg+eAJ45hteA7eTrxhMMJpRKi/Si7df2OgCfWIhJ PTBy+irdQjGhD5mcFMD1jqI= =6jnn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]