-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 04:40, Joe Hart wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >>> I am playing the Devil's advocate here. So I might as well fulfill my >>> role. So, you're saying God was merciful on Isaac because a lamb was >>> sacrificed instead. Fine. So God demanded cruelty to an animal, which >>> is also against our modern laws. >> Cruelty? Where does that come from? > >> Or are you a vegan? > > No, but I don't think it is right to kill an animal for any purpose than > to eat it, or perhaps to end it's suffering. But, that's where we can > come in and say: Ah, but to kill it does relieve its suffering because > by definition living is suffering if one does not have the intelligence > of a human being. Actually that brings us also to the point of > euthanasia and it not being legal in your "free" country.
Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is "someone else killing you", and I see that as a great slippery slope towards total government control over life. >>> Either way one looks at it, the Bible is condoning behavior that is no >>> longer accepted as being morally just. Or perhaps it is just telling us >>> what happened, so we can learn from the past. I can't say that seems >>> very evident looking at many of the things that happen today. >> Shedding the blood of animals to *cover* human sin was what YHWH >> demanded. > > > I just don't get how killing something else can atone for your sins. > penitence must occur to oneself, not to another being. And I don't think there is "sin", since I'm an atheist. Although I do believe that there is "evil". Is that contradictory? >> Jesus' death and the shedding of His blood permanently *washed* away >> all human sin. > >> Note the different words I used: *cover*, which is temporary and why >> Jews had to make yearly sacrifices, and *washed* which is permanent. >> The Law is now fulfilled, and now all that is left is for man to >> believe. > >> That, at least, is the way I was taught it by the Assemblies of God. > >>> I really just wish that Christians would adhere to the lessons that they >>> so firmly believe in. But alas, we have a whole lot of people that seem >>> to do well on Sunday and forget about the rest of the week. >>> Is it a turn the other cheek world we live in or is the eye for an eye >>> world? > > So which world do you think we live in? In a hypocritical world. And I believe that a little hypocrisy is a good thing, and needed for the smooth functioning of society. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQuziS9HxQb37XmcRAsahAKDAb8tEYdWB+aSkEEFHF2e46QMRpACcDJ/7 zm7dzHZHyYfpOQC9aUPK0So= =Rnp6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
