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On 05/25/07 19:17, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2007 18:41:22 -0500
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 05/25/07 18:25, Micha Feigin wrote:
> [snip]
>>>> do ifdown wlan0 followed by a ifup wlan0 and it will sometimes work. In
>>>> roaming mode it doesn't set the wep key at all.
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to convert my dad to linux and proper wifi is kind of the main
>>>> must.
> Why are you inviting someone to (quickly!!) hack into your network?
> 
> 
>> I need a solution that works with both linux and the access point, can be
>> configured easily enough, will stop the next door guy from using my network 
>> (I
>> doubt I can stop anyone from actually breaking in if they really wanted to).
> 
>> Plus everything even inside the network is behind it's own firewall and if 
>> the
>> guy who wants to break in moves another 50m he will find ten more networks 
>> with
>> no protection at all (and another few guarded only be wep).

That's *their* responsibility, not yours!

Read this link.  Other factors indicate he was probably guilty, but
next time that might not be the case.
http://news.com.com/2100-1036_3-6177095.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/24251/100/
    At a recent ISSA (Information Systems Security
    Association) meeting in Los Angeles, a team of FBI
    agents demonstrated current WEP-cracking techniques
    and broke a 128 bit WEP key in about three minutes.
    [snip]
    it should be noted there are numerous ways of hacking
    into a wireless network. The FBI team used publicly
    available tools and emphasized that they are demonstrating
    an attack that many other people are capable of performing.

Modern tools have reduced that time to *seconds*.

>> I'll be happy to hear about a better solution (I don't have the time to catch
>> up on network security) and unrelated to the security issue, I need a wifi
>> management software that works (preferably with no more than entering the
>> network details the first time I want to connect).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPA2

Using WPA2 and AES in Personal mode with a *strong* passphrase
(which only has to be remembered *one* time) is the only way to go.
 Let the other guy's network be hijacked by "bad guys".

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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