-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > ... >> Many of my windows using mates are at least familiar with Tux, even >> though many have only ever used linux at my place (and then only >> using firefox to check email, hardly the grandest most eye opening >> event). > > Debian is not aimed at the same audiences as those distros. If it were, > then there'd be no need for those other distros. > >> Debian could use an image revamp, last night i was messing with a >> debian install disk trying to get driver information for a NIC in my >> solaris machine, and honestly even with the (non-default) GUI, it's >> hardly impressive. > > There is a revamped image with a new logo and an easy to use GUI > installer one can use if Debian is an issue. It's a fairly large > project. Here's a link to it: > > http://ubuntu.com. > > (I notice, when checking that home page that it seems like it's been > taken over by Dell.) > >> Projects like mandriva have much prettier, and more intuitive >> installers. Debian is incredibly fast and efficient, and fantastic >> for experienced unix admins, but not their exclusive domain, more >> publicity can never be a bad thing. > > I use the Net Install. Last time I checked, I can do a complete > install, without X, in about 20-25 minutes on a server and don't have > to mess with any extras. > > I LOVE user friendliness. It's a MUST for me with my workstation. When > I'm writing screenplays, I need to be able to have my computer do what > I want without thinking about how to use the tools so I can think about > my writing. > > However, Debian is not designed for that market. It's designed for > servers and people that want stable systems. I figure by the time a > Debian Stable version is issued, the software in it has been tested for > longer and by more people than just about anything out there. As > cliche as it sounds, I know I actually get more and better sleep at > night because my servers are running Debian. I know I don't have to > check over them and babysit them. There is no other distro I'd trust > as much for long term stability as I do Debian. > > If you want a friendly GUI and a nifty and easy install, go for another > distro. There's a reason there's so many distros out there and it's > too much to ask for one distro to try to hit more than one or two > focused markets. > > And if we have to have a mascot, maybe we can just go with I-Chaya. > > Hal > >
My honest opinion is that you're clinging to *n*x as something that's hard, this elitist view is something that's taking time to change (and i'll admit, i kinda like the idea that using linux is not something anyone can do... good thing i've still got my BSD boxen to be pretentious with ;) ). Debian IS NOT something that an utter newbie to linux can't use, nor should it be. I don't think that just because our distro is not specifically aimed at those who are new doesn't mean it can't have a few creature comforts. I think i can manage typing menuinstall, or netinstall at the bootCD's grub menu. Debian is a great distro, and i'm an advocate of making it possible for the most number of people possible to use it. Regards, Rich Healey -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHxkEqLeTfO4yBSAcRAtRRAKCeDFipI6OtJaBfypOhHbnluodJQwCgwBk6 m9JeFnjLRm9kA3cZsXPn/Ns= =ef9h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]