On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote: > >> Ivan Savcic wrote: > >>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West > >>> > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is > >>>> almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of > >>>> allowing the user to choose to use non-free software within the > >>>> structure of it's packaging system. IMO that is more free than > >>>> preventing people from using the software they want. > >>> > >>> I had exactly the same view on that. But RMS is obviously a > >>> purist, he dreams to banish all closed source from this world. > >>> Like Hal pointed out, RMS believes that there should be no > >>> freedom when it comes to choosing freedom itself. > >>> > >>> Ivan > >> > >> RMS is more of a hypocrite than anything else. He morally objects > >> to distros/*BSD variants with non-free applications in their > >> repositories/ports systems, on the grounds that this implicitly > >> advocates the use of non-free software, whilst explicitly > >> advocating GPL-licensed software for use in conjunction with that > >> ultimate proprietary platform, MS Windows: > >> http://www.gnu.org/software/for-windows.html > > > > I think what RMS objects to is anything that was not his idea > > first. > > > > Hal > > Honi soit qui mal y pense!
Merde! Granted that's just my opinion, based on what I've read and less than 2 1/2 hours at one of his talks (including some time talking to him afterwards), so I could be way off base, but I did get the sense that his world definitely starts and ends with his own views -- and basically contains only his views. > The FSF's list curiously doesn't mention the GNU Foundation's support > for the Win32 port of emacs and gcc: > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/ntemacs.html I admire RMS and a lot of what he's done. I'm currently working on source for controlling an HD radio in C++ so I'm using gcc, based on his earlier version and he did write emacs (isn't that an OS or religion?). That doesn't mean that I think he carries things too far. But then again, maybe it's that blindness and need of his to go too far that has achieved what he has. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]