Hi,

I've come accoss a similar problem, that my apt-get or aptitude wanted to
remove my gnome, gtk, etc. Almost ervery core module of gnome i think.(see
attached for the result of apt-get autoremove -s)
I also guess sid's dependency may be broken recently.

Regards.

Reeyarn

2008/6/14 Dietrich Bollmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks for all the answers :)
>
> I am trying to answer to all of them at once...
>
> Here my initial posting:
>
> > Since weeks I can't update debian sid as apt-get always wants to
> > remove gnome:
> >
> >   apt-get dist-upgrade
> >   [...]
> >   The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   epiphany-extensions fast-user-switch-applet gnome
> >   gnome-desktop-environment gnome-system-tools k3b libavcodeccvs51
> >   libavdevicecvs52 libavformatcvs52 libavutilcvs49 liboobs-1-3
> >   libpostproccvs51 libswscalecvs0 libuim5 scim-uim
> >   [...]
> >
> > As I couldn't find any mails from other users about this problem, I
> > finally wonder if there is something wrong with my system.
> >
> > Should I continue to wait for some more weeks until finally gnome can
> > be updated again or is there some better way to proceed?
>
> The temporary solution seems to be, as Daniel, Magnus and HS proposed,
> to use aptitude rather than apt-get or synaptic.
>
> The following sequence updated most of my system:
>
>  aptitude update
>  aptitude safe-upgrade
>   aptitude -s full-upgrade
>  aptitude full-upgrade
>
> Concerning the latter command, I followed the advice of HS:
>
>  Aptitude usually tells you what is broken and what is the suggested
>  resolution. If you do not accept the suggestion, it gives you
>  another different one and so on until you accept one or just quit
>  the upgrade.
>
> and only accepted a partial solution.
>
> Aptitude still doesn't know about any final solution and still wants to:
>
>  Remove the following packages:
>   fast-user-switch-applet
>  gnome
>  gnome-desktop-environment
>  gnome-system-tools
>
> which I am rejecting.
>
> This update / upgrade procedure removed the kde meta package which, as
> Tom pointed out, didn't "hurt too much as it won't remove anything
> except the meta package itself".  Also I am currently mostly using
> gnome anyway.
>
> Even if my system is in a somehow inconsistent state now, I can live
> with this situation until the problem is solved and a new version of
> gnome and kde can be installed.  The most important thing is that I
> still can update the rest of my system. In Joe's words:
>
>  some of the time, the sid repositories are in an inconsistent state,
>  and a bit of patience is required. Looking at the current rate of
>  updates, about 70MB a day for my 2200 packages, this is not entirely
>  surprising.
>
> and also:
>
>  so that's a matter of waiting
>
> Concerning aptitude vs. apt-get / synaptic, Daniel said:
>
>  The algorithms used to solve dependencies are different, so
>  sometimes they'll produce different results.  aptitude has more
>  facilities for showing why it's doing what it's doing, which is why
>  I suggested it.
>
> As the problem seems to concern all people using gnome on debian sid
> (Daniel: [...] broken gnome-system-tools [...] broken kdenetwork
> [...]), but still I couldn't find other postings about the problem, I
> suppose that most of the people using debian sid rather use aptitude
> than apt-get or synaptic to update their system and do not mind
> packages listed as broken too much :)
>
> To cite Daniel again:
>
>  So, these are the dependencies it's trying to resolve.  The big
>  problems for you are probably the broken gnome-system-tools (which
>  is required by gnome-desktop-environment) and the broken kdenetwork
>  (which is part of kde).  In the case of kdenetwork, you can't
>  upgrade it until kde is rebuilt for your architecture -- according
>  to packages.debian.org, packages like dcoprss are only at 4:3.5.9-2
>  on amd64, hppa, and ia64 so far.
>
>  gnome is broken because gnome-desktop-environment depends on
>  gnome-system-tools, which depends on both system-tools-backends and
>  liboobs-1-3; however, the new version of system-tools-backends
>  conflicts with liboobs-1-3.  So the version of gnome in sid just
>  can't be installed at all, ever.
>
>  In other words, neither of these packages can be upgraded right now.
>
> I am happy to wait :)
>
> Thank you all for your help,
>
> Dietrich
>
>
> PS:
>
> Thanks to Ron for teaching me about:   apt-show-versions -u | sort
>
>
>
>
>
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-- 
Reeyarn
debian:/home/reeyarn# apt-get autoremove -s
正在读取软件包列表... 完成
正在分析软件包的依赖关系树       
正在读取状态信息... 完成       
The following packages are not used:
  libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil sg3-utils ekiga libgsf-gnome-1-114 python-opengl 
libmono2.0-cil python-gst0.10 libmtp7
  libmono-security1.0-cil gcalctool gthumb sharutils cupsys-common libpth20 
gnuchess-book gnome-nettool
  gnome-games-extra-data libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 libgksu1.2-0 python-notify dia-libs 
libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil
  libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil ncompress libgnome-mag2 python-gnome2-extras 
gucharmap libgksuui1.0-1 gnome-games libmagick++10
  libgconf2.0-cil dnsutils libmono-system-web1.0-cil gnome-cards-data 
gthumb-data lzop cli-common ggzcore-bin gnome-mag
  rhythmbox w3c-dtd-xhtml libmono-corlib1.0-cil gimp-gnomevfs 
gtk2-engines-pixbuf system-config-printer libplot2c2
  python-gtkglext1 libdns32 libart2.0-cil libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa 
gnome-themes seahorse libggzmod4 whois libsgutils1
  vinagre gnumeric-common libpt-1.10.10 xulrunner-gnome-support libgpod3 
libisccc30 festlex-cmu dasher guile-1.8-libs
  libelfg0 libgnome2.0-cil python-gtkmozembed python-gtkhtml2 p7zip 
gnome-themes-extras libgoffice-0-6-common libbrlapi0.5
  finger libmono-addins0.2-cil pstoedit gnome-orca liblwres30 
gnome-volume-manager dia-gnome gtk2-engines
  libmono-system1.0-cil eog python-4suite-doc dasher-data gnome-backgrounds 
python-eggtrayicon python-brlapi gok
  libgtk2.0-cil mono-gac libggz2 python-ctypes festlex-poslex libmono1.0-cil 
vino libbind9-30 libmono-data-tds1.0-cil
  libmono-i18n1.0-cil libwmf-bin gnome-games-data festvox-kallpc16k 
libmono-system-data1.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil
  libgtkhtml2-0 libgoffice-0-6 libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil libopal-2.2 
libgpod-common gimp libgnome-speech7 libgimp2.0
  mono-runtime libgmime-2.0-2a libisccfg30 python-cups gnome-core libc-ares1 
dia-common dmz-cursor-theme python-4suite-xml
  libcolorblind0 gnumeric python-pkg-resources festival 
libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libgpgme11 libggzcore9 gconf-editor
  libgc1c2 gnuchess libisc32 libgsl0ldbl totem gnome-accessibility-themes unace 
libxp6 gimp-data libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
  perlmagick inkscape libavahi-ui0 libgtkglext1 libmono-cairo1.0-cil 
gstreamer0.10-tools freeglut3 libpstoedit0c2a
  gimp-python file-roller serpentine libntfs-3g24 sound-juicer
The Following Packages would be [Removed]:
  cli-common cupsys-common dasher dasher-data dia-common dia-gnome dia-libs 
dmz-cursor-theme dnsutils ekiga eog festival
  festlex-cmu festlex-poslex festvox-kallpc16k file-roller finger freeglut3 
gcalctool gconf-editor ggzcore-bin gimp
  gimp-data gimp-gnomevfs gimp-python gnome-accessibility-themes 
gnome-backgrounds gnome-cards-data gnome-core gnome-games
  gnome-games-data gnome-games-extra-data gnome-mag gnome-nettool gnome-orca 
gnome-themes gnome-themes-extras
  gnome-volume-manager gnuchess gnuchess-book gnumeric gnumeric-common gok 
gstreamer0.10-tools gthumb gthumb-data
  gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf gucharmap guile-1.8-libs inkscape 
libart2.0-cil libavahi-ui0 libbind9-30 libbrlapi0.5
  libc-ares1 libcolorblind0 libdns32 libelfg0 libgc1c2 libgconf2.0-cil libggz2 
libggzcore9 libggzmod4 libgimp2.0
  libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgmime-2.0-2a 
libgnome-mag2 libgnome-speech7
  libgnome-vfs2.0-cil libgnome2.0-cil libgoffice-0-6 libgoffice-0-6-common 
libgpgme11 libgpod-common libgpod3
  libgsf-gnome-1-114 libgsl0ldbl libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 libgtk2.0-cil libgtkglext1 
libgtkhtml2-0 libisc32 libisccc30 libisccfg30
  liblwres30 libmagick++10 libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil libmono-addins0.2-cil 
libmono-cairo1.0-cil libmono-corlib1.0-cil
  libmono-data-tds1.0-cil libmono-i18n1.0-cil libmono-security1.0-cil 
libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
  libmono-system-data1.0-cil libmono-system-web1.0-cil 
libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-system1.0-cil libmono1.0-cil
  libmono2.0-cil libmtp7 libntfs-3g24 libopal-2.2 libplot2c2 libpstoedit0c2a 
libpt-1.10.10 libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa
  libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpth20 libsgutils1 libwmf-bin libxp6 lzop 
mono-gac mono-runtime ncompress p7zip perlmagick
  pstoedit python-4suite-doc python-4suite-xml python-brlapi python-ctypes 
python-cups python-eggtrayicon
  python-gnome2-extras python-gst0.10 python-gtkglext1 python-gtkhtml2 
python-gtkmozembed python-notify python-opengl
  python-pkg-resources rhythmbox seahorse serpentine sg3-utils sharutils 
sound-juicer system-config-printer totem unace
  vinagre vino w3c-dtd-xhtml whois xulrunner-gnome-support
共升级了 0 个软件包,新安装了 0 个软件包,removing 152 
packages,有 2 个软件未被升级。
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