On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Bret Busby wrote:


On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Bob Cox wrote:

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 18:28:00 +0800, Bret Busby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Jonathan Kaye wrote:


Bret Busby wrote:


Hello.

We have Debian 4.0 running on one of our computers; a server of sorts.

Accessing that computer, for system updates, etc, is done through
telnet.

Running uname -a, which I understand returns the kernel version, returns
2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i586 GNU/Linux

In searching on the Internet, I cannot find an easy way, using apt-get,
of updating (or upgrading) the kernel, and it is clearly not
automatically done when running apt-get update followed by
apt-get-upgrade.

The GUI system update/upgrade facility on my workstation (also Debian
4.0), automatically includes kernel updates; the last one done today
(from Synaptic File -> History, "linux-image-2.6.18-6-k7
(2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch6) to 2.6.18.dfsg.1-22").

How do I get what automatically works with the GUI update/upgrade
facility, to work with a command line apt-get update then apt-get
dist-upgrade facility, to update/upgrade the kernel?

Thank you in anticipation.

--
Bret Busby

Hi Bret,
1. At the console type "aptitude search linux-image" You will see a list of
kernels.
2. Pick the kernel of you choice, say, linux-image-2.6.25-2-686, and AS ROOT
or using sudo type "aptitude install linux-image-2.6.25-2-686" (if that's
the kernel you want).
Then reboot and you should see the newly installed kernel appear on your
boot menu.
Cheers,
Jonathan


"
aptitude search linux-image

<snip>

p   linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 - Linux 2.6.18 image on x86

<snip>

"
cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 5
model           : 4
model name      : Pentium MMX
stepping        : 3
cpu MHz         : 233.866
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : yes
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 mmx
bogomips        : 466.94
"

But, which image?

The CPU appears to be a Pentium MMX.

The above list of images, have images for 486 CPU's, and for 686 CPU's,
and for "PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4" CPU's, but not for either a straight
Pentium CPU, or for a Pentium MMX CPU.

I am pretty sure 486 is the one to go for.  (I use it on a P266 MMX
laptop).

Your list above shows no packages marked 'A' for auto which explains why
it was not upgrading.

Regarding etch, this article might be of interest/use:

http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20080726




It got too complicated, as the process came up with a message about having to modify lilo.conf to accommodate initrd and to modify the file further, to stop the warning message about initrd in future kernel
upgrades.

So, I took the abort option, which still installed some of the 8 new packages to be installed as part of the kernel upgrade process.

I am hoping that the server still works, as it is our mailserver.

I am sure that I will soon find whether the server still works.

Thanks anyway.

It is just to complicated for me at present.

I guess we will just stick with the 2.4 kernel, until upgrading it gets easier, or we replace the computer.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............



The ouput (apart from the dialogue box that convinced me to abort the upgrade) is here:

"
 aptitude install linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
busybox initramfs-tools klibc-utils libklibc libvolume-id0 module-init-tools udev
The following NEW packages will be installed:
busybox initramfs-tools klibc-utils libklibc libvolume-id0 linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 module-init-tools udev
0 packages upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 17.2MB of archives. After unpacking 51.3MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Writing extended state information... Done
Get:1 http://ftp.uwa.edu.au etch/main module-init-tools 3.3-pre4-2 [82.8kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.uwa.edu.au etch/main libklibc 1.4.34-2 [43.0kB]
Get:3 http://ftp.uwa.edu.au etch/main klibc-utils 1.4.34-2 [158kB]
Get:4 http://ftp.uwa.edu.au etch/main busybox 1:1.1.3-4 [286kB]
Get:5 http://ftp.uwa.edu.au etch/main libvolume-id0 0.105-4 [62.5kB]
Get:6 http://ftp.uwa.edu.au etch/main udev 0.105-4 [263kB]
Get:7 http://ftp.wa.au.debian.org etch/main initramfs-tools 0.85i [62.7kB] Get:8 http://ftp.wa.au.debian.org etch/main linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 2.6.18.dfsg.1-22 [16.2MB]
Fetched 17.2MB in 54s (313kB/s)
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 65, <$__ANONIO__> line 6933. Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 65, <$__ANONIO__> line 6935. Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 65, <$__ANONIO__> line 6937.
Preconfiguring packages ...
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 83. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 84. Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 83. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 84. Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 83. Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm line 84.
Selecting previously deselected package module-init-tools.
(Reading database ... 9674 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking module-init-tools (from .../module-init-tools_3.3-pre4-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libklibc.
Unpacking libklibc (from .../libklibc_1.4.34-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package klibc-utils.
Unpacking klibc-utils (from .../klibc-utils_1.4.34-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package busybox.
Unpacking busybox (from .../busybox_1%3a1.1.3-4_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libvolume-id0.
Unpacking libvolume-id0 (from .../libvolume-id0_0.105-4_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package udev.
Unpacking udev (from .../archives/udev_0.105-4_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package initramfs-tools.
Unpacking initramfs-tools (from .../initramfs-tools_0.85i_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package linux-image-2.6.18-6-486.
Unpacking linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 (from .../linux-image-2.6.18-6-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-22_i386.deb) ...
Ok, Aborting
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.18-6-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-22_i386.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:

/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.18-6-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-22_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
Setting up module-init-tools (3.3-pre4-2) ...

Setting up libklibc (1.4.34-2) ...
Setting up klibc-utils (1.4.34-2) ...
Setting up libvolume-id0 (0.105-4) ...

Setting up udev (0.105-4) ...
/sys/class/net/ is not available, persistent interface names not saved.
udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.15, not started.

Setting up busybox (1.1.3-4) ...
Setting up initramfs-tools (0.85i) ...

"

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992

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