On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:51, Dirk <noi...@gmx.net> wrote: > John Hasler wrote: >> >> Thorny writes: >>> >>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even >>> though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a >>> developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they might not like >>> the way you explain your complaint. >> >> File a bug against xserver-xorg and firmly but _politely_ explain your >> objection. > > someone already did... > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214 > > and the replies, nitpicking and bullshitting already took more place, energy > and time than turning hal from a dependency back into a recommended > package... > > and i just found out that ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work anymore without > hal... despite the... > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "off"
ctrl+alt+backspace has nothing at all to do with hal, and if you want it back you need Option "DontZap" "off" > hal is such a cancerous piece of crap that it would be interesting to know > in what companies the hal developers spend their working time... and in what > companies the xorg and had debian package maintainers spend their working > time... Actually, hal is a rather useful piece of technology. The only real problem with hal is that it could use a little more attention and some cleanup. Certainly the idea of hal is sound. Luckily, hal is getting the cleanup it needs, in the sense that it is turning into/being replaced by DeviceKit. I believe the primary hal author works for Red Hat, some of the employers of Xorg people include Intel, Novell, Red Hat and Tungsten Graphics (now owned by VMWare). I don't know who the Debian xorg maintainers work for; since this is Debian there is a good possibility that their day jobs are unrelated to Xorg. Anyway, X can make very good use of some of the services hal provides, and there is no sensein Xorg recreating that functionality when it already exists. I have to say, though, it worries me a bit that someone could have such vitriolic hatred towards a piece of software... Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
